Spoilers Spider-Man Far From Home review and discussion

For me, Raimi had a clear understanding of the character and vision for the films. Despite the changes they were very much the classic Spider-Man and it was cool to see panels from the comic books come to life. They had feeling.

The ASM movies were simply bland by comparison. I found myself falling asleep during both of them.

 

This is the worst news ever, if true https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adambvary/spider-man-leaving-mcu-tom-holland-marvel-studios

 

It's true. Spider-man is moving to the Sony spider-verse with Venom and whatever other villains they'll make movies for.

 

This totally changes my perspective about movies starring the character moving forward. The next Spider-Man movie will be the first MCU movie since the Incredible Hulk that I will wait until after release and word-of-mouth before before deciding upon seeing it in the theater or not. I gave Venom a chance and that was two hours of my life and $12 that I'll never get back. Hell, at this point I'm not even sure if I'll buy Far From Home on Blu-ray simply because it ends with a cliffhanger and I have zero faith in the folks at Sony to properly resolve it.

Hopefully Amy Pascal remains at the helm rather than giving the reins back to Avi Arad. That will result in an automatic "no watch" for me.

 

How stupid must Sony be, given the reaction to Homecoming & FFH compared to those for ASM 1 & 2?

 

Well, Marvel wanted to change the terms on them. It wasn't going to continue as the same deal.

 

Sony better be prepared for major backlash and if they push forward a much smaller gross than what Homecoming or Far From Home enjoyed. I personally will not see it and it will make no fucking sense when the MCU world is totally ignored after the last several years with the character.

Disney just buy Sony already

 

Yep. Based on their track record versus Feige's track record, my desire to see ANY Spider-Man movie decreased by 50%. These are the same people who brought us Amazing Spider-Man, Amazing Spider-Man 2, and Spider-Man 3. All of which I would put somewhere on the Thor and Thor 2 end of things.

 

Stupid and greedy.

Part of me wants it to blow up in their faces, but I love what Watts, Holland, Chris McKenna, and Erik Sommer have done too much to want it their next film to be a disaster.

Like I said in the MCU thread, hopefully McKenna and Sommer also return and, between them and Watts and Holland, are able to maintain the quality and spirit of the first two films without Sony meddling and shitting all over the process (and, as Turtletrekker said, keep Avi Arad far, far away from these films!). I don't need the connections to the MCU for the future films but I do want the same quality of story as Homecoming and Far From Home. Fingers crossed that this doesn't result in an outright disaster.

 

Does Sony not realize that Feige and the MCU are the reason Far from Home is Sony's highest grossing movie? r that they haven't done a good live action Spider-Man movie without Marvel since Spider-Man 2?

Even if they continue with Tom Holland, its going to be really awkward when they have to ignore so much of the first two movies. Knowing Sony, they'll probably think that adding Tom hardy's Venom to the next Spider-Man movie will bring everyone in, even though that movie is definitely not as well liked as its box office would make you think it was.

I didn't like Homecoming (and I haven't seen FFH yet, I have to wait until the home video release), but outside of animation Sony is not capable of making good SM movies by themselves at this point. Combine that with the fact that they're still planning a thousand stupid villain focused spin offs and I think they're going to be into a rude awakening. I mean, the Into the Spider-Verse sequel/potential spin offs will probably do well, but the live action stuff is probably quickly going to devolve to the same shit Sony produces without Marvel.

 

Maybe a glimmer of hope https://twitter.com/io9/status/1163929390763429890?s=21

 

I thought the original Marvel Studios/Sony deal was a 6-film one: Spidey would appear in 3 Marvel Studios films not centered around him (Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame), and three Marvel Studios films in which he stars - which, after Homecoming and Far From Home, would leave one to go even if the deal weren't extended. But the Deadline piece doesn't say anything about that...

 

Hopefully they can work something out. Perhaps they're just gauging public response at this point? Recall that the original deal only happened after the leaked Sony emails revealed Kevin Feige's interest in bringing Spider-Man into the MCU and the public's response to that.

 

Fingers crossed!

 

I argued about this with someone earlier in the thread, my belief being that the contract was for five movies.

This is the least happy I have ever been to be vindicated.

 

Sounds like the next Spider-Man movie might not be an MCU movie at all.

 

Sony needs Marvel more than Marvel needs Sony. Yes, they put out a legitimately great movie in Into the Spider-Verse and somehow Venom made $800 million despite being awful, but neither of those successes would have happened if Marvel hadn't come by and rescued the brand that Sony had been slowly killing over the years.

 

Nothing you said here is accurate.

 

In what universe did Into the Spider-Verse suck and Venom was awesome?

Oh, and Venom didn't make $800 million worldwide? Oh, thank the gods! My faith in humanity has been restored!

 

Fine. Almost nothing that Skywalker said was accurate.