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Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead
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Given how this group’s boycott of Captain Marvel went, ignoring them completely seems to be successful. The world has moved on, they haven’t.
because "diversity" is a hot button issue RIGHT NOW,... so doing this would not be (or seem) like a creative issue, but one pandering to the issue. This may or may not be the case, but perception is reality and that is how people would perceive it.
Thank you for allowing me to clarify my point. I have no problem with black leads or female leads, etc. I have a problem with doing in a climate where Tim Miller can start spouting off hateful comments about the Terminator fanbase, and KK can talk about her agenda.. etc etc.. This is the wrong time to make a move like this because it will draw the wrong kind of attention
Sorry I wasn't clear. I was disputing @Flying Spaghetti Monster's post. I included yours since you were making a similar point to the one I wanted to make.
uh, mayyyyybe?
Do you think Hollywood cares? Their prime concern is if people are buying tickets.
The best way to deal with this is not to avoid casting non-white actors and white or not actresses, it's to cast more, so it becomes more common and it's not noteworthy anymore. Avoiding the issue will only make it worse.
I'm watching 4 Weddings and a Funeral the TV Show, Episode 5 came out yesterday. Hugh Grant has been recast with, Nathalie Emmanuel who was the Emelia Clarke's translator friend on Game of Thrones.
Andie McDowell showed up in an episode as someone's overbearing mother.
Andie McDowell showed up in an episode as someone's overbearing mother.
I suspect it will be the same people having a problem with diversity, who claim they want a story reason for a character to be black, but are totally cool with a character being white for no reason. Like, their hypocrisy wont even affect them.
Change anything you want as long as Reginald VelJohnson reprises his part.
Um?
Still above ground.
He played a cop in an EndGame deleted scene, which puts either or both Die Hard and Family Matters into the MCU.
Um?
Still above ground.
He played a cop in an EndGame deleted scene, which puts either or both Die Hard and Family Matters into the MCU.
he also played a cop in Ghostbusters 1984 (he gets the gang out of the holding cell to meet the mayor), which means they are in the same universe
I disagree, Ghostbusters and Avengers are not even remotely in the same universe. That's a retcon based on one loose association and not even for a main or secondary character. Just an actor playing different roles. Especially if it's decades apart, doesn't mean anything by default except it's an actor doing a job. Actors being in different movies doesn't mean they're all in the same universe of franchises (which would get boring very quickly as well as risking pandering...) If there was such a rule, think of the actors who played many different roles during sitcoms from the 1960s or 1970s when it happened all the time when said actors were done playing other characters in other shows. Do we want "All in the Family", "The Banana Splits", and "The Brady Bunch" to be in the same universe just because Alice's butcher was also a bartender and a big live action puppet cartoon dog, never mind others? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Actors have enough of a time with typecasting not to be fettered by this...
If nothing else, "Star Trek" and "Tank Girl" are in the same universe as "A Clockwork Orange".
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We should start asking “What’s the story reason for making that character white/male?” every time a white/male is cast.
That stuff happens as well like in the latest Tarantino film. Like complaining that Die Hard might star someone who isn't white I am not a fan of this attitude. Jason
It’s not a hot button issue outside of the comment section of YouTube and any other comment section without moderation. It’s a small loud minority obsessed with and offended by any representation of anyone other than cis, white straight men. Because they find including anyone else to be political or controversial or some other term that doesn’t really apply.
And Tim Miller said it would scare “misogynistic Internet trolls”, so it’s only hateful if that’s how you identify. There is no agenda other than the one held by this same minority. And it only “draws attention” because they’re absolutely obsessed with representation of any kind. They’re greedy children upset that they aren’t getting 100% of the attention they feel entitled to.
This is every single one of them. If they don’t see it, it’s due to a lack of self awareness.
I disagree, Ghostbusters and Avengers are not even remotely in the same universe. That's a retcon based on one loose association and not even for a main or secondary character. Just an actor playing different roles. Especially if it's decades apart, doesn't mean anything by default except it's an actor doing a job. Actors being in different movies doesn't mean they're all in the same universe of franchises (which would get boring very quickly as well as risking pandering...) If there was such a rule, think of the actors who played many different roles during sitcoms from the 1960s or 1970s when it happened all the time when said actors were done playing other characters in other shows. Do we want "All in the Family", "The Banana Splits", and "The Brady Bunch" to be in the same universe just because Alice's butcher was also a bartender and a big live action puppet cartoon dog, never mind others? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Actors have enough of a time with typecasting not to be fettered by this...
If nothing else, "Star Trek" and "Tank Girl" are in the same universe as "A Clockwork Orange".
Do we want...? Of course we want everything to be in the same universe as everything else. We're fans. This wacky secret connection/world-building stuff is what we live for.
You've mentioned this before. The point you are missing is that changing the color of the leads skin in Die Hard or even the agenda would have zero impact on the Die Hard story pretending they try and remake the original movies actual plot. It is very rare that the main character in any action film needs to be a white male because of STORY!
What would mess with the spirit of Die Hard? Making it a PG-13 film for one. Making the character some highly trained ex navy SEAL. Not hiring somebody with the charisma to carry the story.
Keep in mind that hiring Bruce Willis was a gutsy move as up until that point he had been the balding, slightly overweight, joke cracking wise guy on Moonlighting--which was a ground-breaking, high brow series in its own right. Casting Willis as an action hero came entirely out of left field--but like RDJ with Iron Man, Willis acting chops and his charisma really gave the movie that something special to push it above the other releases that year.
So, taking a casting risk and hiring an unexpected lead would be exactly in keeping with what the original Die Hard did.
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