And it definitely qualifies as unpunished sexual harassment. I think that aspect of DS9 is definitely cringeworthy.
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And it definitely qualifies as unpunished sexual harassment. I think that aspect of DS9 is definitely cringeworthy.
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Clever, though it's a question of ratio, isn't it. Add up all the hours of Picard screen time and then count the minutes of hysterics. Then do the same for Burnham. I think you'll find those ratios rather different, considering Burnham was converted to a
telenovela character by Season 2, with the producers seemingly trying to set records for amateurish audience manipulation. Though I did enjoy the episode that revolved around multiple persons sobbing for a minor background character who tragically was spoilered.
But you aren't seriously suggesting that TNG and Disco have comparable levels of cheap histrionics, are you, because that would be false on its face... considering the common knock on TNG TV series was that it was overly staid.
And you aren't seriously suggesting that 'Chain of Command' and 'Sarek' are cringe-worthy episodes, I take it you're just having fun with photos, which is all well and good.
I will grant you that Picard's meltdown in Generations was ill-considered in the context of that film. So you found one example of regrettable blubbering in 178 episodes and 4 motion pictures.
I'd rewatch that episode to try see your viewpoint but life is too short to rewatch "Profit and Lace".
I'd rewatch that episode to try see your viewpoint but life is too short to rewatch "Profit and Lace".
Agreed!
I'll pick an emotional Trek over a stoic one any dayClever, though it's a question of ratio, isn't it. Add up all the hours of Picard screen time and then count the minutes of hysterics. Then do the same for Burnham. I think you'll find those ratios rather different, considering Burnham was converted to atelenovela character by Season 2, with the producers seemingly trying to set records for amateurish audience manipulation. Though I did enjoy the episode that revolved around multiple persons sobbing for a minor background character who tragically was spoilered.
But you aren't seriously suggesting that TNG and Disco have comparable levels of cheap histrionics, are you, because that would be false on its face... considering the common knock on TNG TV series was that it was overly staid.
And you aren't seriously suggesting that 'Chain of Command' and 'Sarek' are cringe-worthy episodes, I take it you're just having fun with photos, which is all well and good.
I will grant you that Picard's meltdown in Generations was ill-considered in the context of that film. So you found one example of regrettable blubbering in 178 episodes and 4 motion pictures.
Clever, though it's a question of ratio, isn't it. Add up all the hours of Picard screen time and then count the minutes of hysterics. Then do the same for Burnham. I think you'll find those ratios rather different, considering Burnham was converted to atelenovela character by Season 2, with the producers seemingly trying to set records for amateurish audience manipulation. Though I did enjoy the episode that revolved around multiple persons sobbing for a minor background character who tragically was spoilered.
But you aren't seriously suggesting that TNG and Disco have comparable levels of cheap histrionics, are you, because that would be false on its face... considering the common knock on TNG TV series was that it was overly staid.
And you aren't seriously suggesting that 'Chain of Command' and 'Sarek' are cringe-worthy episodes, I take it you're just having fun with photos, which is all well and good.
I will grant you that Picard's meltdown in Generations was ill-considered in the context of that film. So you found one example of regrettable blubbering in 178 episodes and 4 motion pictures.
What I'm suggesting is that I disagree with what you were trying to say.
That's all I'm suggesting.
It's not really a "question of ratio" in my mind at all. We're talking about different characters. Just like real people, they deal with emotions differently and express emotions differently.
I could have done the same collage with Roddenberry's face and Shatner's face. It probably would have been even worse. Seems to have worked out ok for those guys and that show, though. And, it's working out well for Discovery, despite your personal misgivings, as we have yet another season on the way and a number of new series in development under Alex Kurtzman as a result of CBS's opinions on the show's successes. Reasons to celebrate all around!!
Clever, though it's a question of ratio, isn't it. Add up all the hours of Picard screen time and then count the minutes of hysterics. Then do the same for Burnham. I think you'll find those ratios rather different, considering Burnham was converted to atelenovela character by Season 2, with the producers seemingly trying to set records for amateurish audience manipulation. Though I did enjoy the episode that revolved around multiple persons sobbing for a minor background character who tragically was spoilered.
But you aren't seriously suggesting that TNG and Disco have comparable levels of cheap histrionics, are you, because that would be false on its face... considering the common knock on TNG TV series was that it was overly staid.
And you aren't seriously suggesting that 'Chain of Command' and 'Sarek' are cringe-worthy episodes, I take it you're just having fun with photos, which is all well and good.
I will grant you that Picard's meltdown in Generations was ill-considered in the context of that film. So you found one example of regrettable blubbering in 178 episodes and 4 motion pictures.
Burnham had to deal with events that would have made Picard weep like a little girl!!!
Nothing Picard had to go through compares to someone thinking their mother had been dead for twenty years only to see her alive for a couple of hours before she was snatched away, possibly for good. Or when Michael is forced to kill a good friend of hers because her motor functions have been taken over by Control but the friend is still aware of everything.
And that's only two instances of Michael showing these emotions you keep complaining about!
Uhh, I just did a search to verify my recollection, and this did actually happen at the beginning of the episode "Captive Pursuit." You know, the one with Tosk.
Kor
He does utter racist slurs sometimes. Like Hu-Mon and makes generalizations about everyone. He gets away with it because it is often funny. Scumbags can be funny in the safe confines of tv and especially when they look the way Ferengi do in a show that is rated G or at least PG. Heck it can even be funny in more realistic settings if your doing some dark humor.
Jason
Almost anything involving Denise Crosby. Or Majel Barrett as Troi's mother.
It amazes how there is a desire for individuals to have them act as basically the same.
I actually enjoy that episode quite a lot. Troi dealing with the feelings of being lonely as your getting older and maybe having to settle is a idea I can relate to and something I think many can relate to. I even liked her influence on Alexander and that was maybe the only time I ever like Alexander until years later on DS9.
Jason
Jason
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