Cringe Trek

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by King Daniel Beyond, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. Discofan

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    I've heard that before but not with that name. Isn't that a German song initially?
     
  2. Silvercrest

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    The Klingons used to have a Blues genre, but it went extinct pretty fast. Everyone killed themselves the first time they played it, or listened to it. :klingon::wah::klingon::wah::klingon:
     
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    "Klingons have no time for the blues. Warriors kill them as soon as they surface. They remind us too much of...Bolians."
     
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  4. Discofan

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    I doubt the Klingons have anything resembling a violin.
     
  5. XCV330

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    stringed instruments seem to have developed from the bow. bowing a stringed instrument shows up over and over around the world wherever those instruments were developed. same way the banjo's ancestor, the akonting from Senegal, doesn't really sound all that greatly different from its distant cousin: the Japanese shamisen, a world way. Klingons have opera, so they probably have some kind of fiddle.

    But I suspect if they have any stringed instrument or just one, its something medieval and totally badass like the theorbo
     
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    "I woke up this morning. Was already dead. The House of Duras, had murdered me in my bed! A dishonorable death, I'm angered to my shoes! I've got those "I'm condemned to Gre'thor" Blues...."
     
  7. Discofan

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    As a matter of fact, I saw cartoons and even a movie but it was a comedy. Where the hero used a string instrument (I want to say a counter bass) as a makeshift bow and arrow. Maybe it was a Marx Brothers' movie but I am not sure.
     
  8. fireproof78

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    Why not? Klingons are not some monolithic mass that lack art and culture.
     
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  9. Cutie McWhiskers

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    No species is. The issue is, Star Trek was, originally, using species as metaphor for singular aspects of the human condition. Or countries (Klingons both being metaphor for communism, per the cold war.) The show developed over time, most tangibly since 1987's TNG started. That's why no Russian character in TNG claims everything was inwented in Wussia bwy Widdle Owd Wadies fwom Wenningwad... Now that is cringe, and at least some season 3 stories tried to rectify that gaffe.
     
  10. Discofan

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    What gaffe? Chekov is obviously a parody, we have his equivalent in a James Bond movie where a Russian Official refuses to admit that a Russian clock could be broken and says something stupid like: "Russian Clocks work perfectly!".
     
  11. fireproof78

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    Stereotypes aren't they hilarious!

    Except when Chekov is the one who mans the science station when Spock is absent and is demonstrated to be more than a parody.

    Also, Chekov was meant far more to represent the Monkees to appeal to a younger demographic. Hence the wig.
     
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  12. Discofan

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    They can't justify Chekov's presence on the bridge if he isn't good at his job. But other shows of that period have their hilarious Russian guy sometimes he comes from an imaginary country like Latka Gravas on Taxi. That guy is obviously meant as a snark against Russians in general. He has bizarre ideas, doesn't really understand democracy, eats disgusting things, plays musical instruments that sound like a dying cat...etc. And I am sure it's not the only other show with a "Russian guy"...
     
  13. fireproof78

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    Right... I don't agree and the BTS info isn't all about strict parody.
     
  14. JonnyQuest037

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    If it was Elvis Costello, I'd have been for it. :D
    Latka was based on Andy Kaufman's "Foreign Man" character from his stand-up act, and the background the show gave him was a lot more Greek than Russian.
     
  15. Prax

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    In either the last or 2nd to last episode of DS9, when Garak and some othe Carsassians are raiding the Dominion headquarters, they keep yelling "For Cardaaasssssia!!!"

    They should have made up some alien language or something, because this makes me cringe.
     
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    This is what I thought too, to draw the younger crowd. :)

    Definitely! A good Cardassian battle cry would have went over perfectly.
    Jaj vIghaj!
     
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  17. SJGardner

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this about that battle cry. I watched it dubbed in Hungarian and it was doubly jarring for me because Garak's VA is a comic actor whose most well-known voice role is Al Bundy.
     
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  18. Vger23

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    I always cringe at Galt's costume in "Gamesters of Triskellion."

    Honestly, almost all of those costumes are cringeworthy-crap in that episode. Directly out of "Amazon Women on the Moon"

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  19. Prax

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    Is that a silent J, a hard J, or a "Y" sound?
     
  20. Discofan

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    The Neutral Zone: Picard admonishing Data (I think) for having revived people. Try to tell us that you are a humanist after that, asshole! There's also "Homeward" where Picard is even creepier! What did he say about the guy? "At least he wouldn't have died alone!!!". To imply that an entire group of people dying is somewhat preferable to the death of one person in that group, you have to be an unprintable a..hole!