Star Trek: Picard teaser trailer

[Yistaan]

One of the devs has said they're willing to rework the games timeline to fit with the show, but they're also willing to treat STO as just an alternate timeline from the show.

They're going to wait and see.

I honestly think that, in-universe, Q should just snap his fingers and change STO to reflect the Picard show, no in-universe explanation given other than Q's whim. Besides, all the players would know and understand the real world reason for the change anyway.

I'd hate to see Star Trek Online slide into irrelevance the way Star Wars: The Old Republic did once Disney declared that game non-canon. Especially now that Star Trek as a franchise is on the rise again.

 

[Roald]

This series should get its own section in the BBS now..! This has just become VERY real..! Wow, loved the teaser!

 

[robau]

Can we discuss the water pump? I like to think that the federation or whatever the governing region is installed energy filters in the non-corrosive space pipes underground. But when they wanted to install some kind of fancy tech pump, Picard’s, say, great-grandfather told them to fuck off.

 

[daedalus5]

Can’t wait.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'd hate to see Star Trek Online slide into irrelevance the way Star Wars: The Old Republic did once Disney declared that game non-canon. Especially now that Star Trek as a franchise is on the rise again.

SWTOR is still going, there is a new expansion coming out this fall.

 

[Yistaan]

SWTOR is still going, there is a new expansion coming out this fall.

I'm a player myself and didn't hear about this. I've heard more about that new Jedi Fallen Order game than about this expansion. That's the "irrelevance" I was talking about.

 

[ITDUDE]

So 86 is the vintage, right? As in 2386? So if he was still Admiral in let's say in 2384 when the "big thing" happened, he then retired, planted some grapes and got his first harvest and wine bottles right around 2386, that seems right. And "now" it is 2399, 15 years since he retired. I think everything lines up with that date. Am I missing anything?

 

[Jadeb]

Rewatched the teaser again (mainly as an attempt to feel hype again after the total letdown the new Terminator trailer ended up being), and my first impression is that we're hearing a reporter interviewing him for an anniversary. It's mostly based on the wording she uses, how she recaps something that sounds like something well known to the public, and how she ends it with a directed question about why he left Starfleet. I definitely think it's an interview.

I hope so. My first reaction was, "This sounds like a Burnham monologue." Stiff and artificial, unlike how a person would normally talk.

Or maybe I've just been traumatized by Discovery. (This is, after all, just a teaser trailer.)

 

[Yistaan]

So 86 is the vintage, right? As in 2386? So if he was still Admiral in let's say in 2384 when the "big thing" happened, he then retired, planted some grapes and got his first harvest and wine bottles right around 2386, that seems right. And "now" it is 2399, 15 years since he retired. I think everything lines up with that date. Am I missing anything?

The Hobus supernova happened in 2387 though. 15 years after 2387 places us in 2402.

 

[Amaris]

Perfection. I'm speechless.

For me the hardest emotional impact was right at the end, with the chimes playing the theme to TNG. I actually cried when I heard that.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm a player myself and didn't hear about this.

It was announced last month at the Cantina gathering during Celebration.
https://vulkk.com/2019/04/14/bioware-revealed-the-next-swtor-expansion-at-sw-celebration-2019/

 

[Tuskin38]

The Hobus supernova happened in 2387 though. 15 years after 2387 places us in 2402.

I don't think the 15 years ago was the destruction of Romulus, but the start of the evacuation since they knew it was coming in advance.

The nova then came earlier than expected.

 

[Ithekro]

Hobus is still 2387, so it wasn't that that drove him to leave Starfleet.

(He got a vision of Michael Burnham, and just quit)

 

[Yistaan]

I don't think the 15 years ago was the destruction of Romulus, but the start of the evacuation since they knew it was coming in advance.

The nova then came earlier than expected.

The longer of a head start warning the Romulans had on their homeplanet's destruction, the less sense Nero's anger at Spock in the 2009 film makes.

Hobus is still 2387, so it wasn't that that drove him to leave Starfleet.

(He got a vision of Michael Burnham, and just quit)

Did they give an official Earth year for the show? I know Patrick Stewart threw some rough dates around, but he's not exactly a hardcore Trek canon/timeline expert.

 

[Tuskin38]

The longer of a head start warning the Romulans had on their homeplanet's destruction, the less sense Nero's anger at Spock in the 2009 film makes.

Not really, Spock was still too late to save the planet, because it happened sooner than expected.

 

[Lorcan Kelly]

Absolute perfection. My expectations are through the roof

 

[Tuskin38]

It's also possible that the '20 years from Nemesis' statement was always a ballpark estimate and not an exact date, and they refined it to 2402 since the show was announced.

 

[ITDUDE]

The Hobus supernova happened in 2387 though. 15 years after 2387 places us in 2402.

Ok, how about this. He retired in 2384, planted some grapes, got some 2386 vintage wine bottles, got called back to service to lead an armada (really? no one else could do it?) then retired again? Confusing...

I don't think the 15 years ago was the destruction of Romulus, but the start of the evacuation since they knew it was coming in advance.

The nova then came earlier than expected.

God, hate that stupid nova and everything to do with it. Bleeh.
So assuming 86 stands for 2386, he must have already been retired couple years before then. So, either he retired in 2384 unrelated to Hobus, or Hobus just got retconned into happening 3 years earlier than in ST09. If it's the latter, it's not the worst thing to happen in Trek.

 

[tomalak301]

Is the Hobus Supernova what caused the timelines to differentiate in the Kelvin film. I don't play Star Trek Online, so I'm a little lost in this conversation.

I rewatched the trailer and I feel the same way as @BillJ. I'm more hyped for this than any Discovery news, and I'm really looking forward to anything new that might come out of Vegas this year about it.

 

[SJGardner]

So 86 is the vintage, right? As in 2386? So if he was still Admiral in let's say in 2384 when the "big thing" happened, he then retired, planted some grapes and got his first harvest and wine bottles right around 2386, that seems right. And "now" it is 2399, 15 years since he retired. I think everything lines up with that date. Am I missing anything?

Bourgogne-Franche-Comté... so it looks like a final on-screen confirmation that this or this is the La Barre we're talking about. Wikipedia already lists both as Picard's birthplace and cites the Encyclopedia for it. I don't have a copy of it so I don't know if the book is where La Barre's location comes from.