TOS fan reactions to 'Discovery'?

That's why there were British flags in Into Darkness. England wasn't part of the Federation, and infact still hadn't quite finalised it's exit from the EU.

 

If everyone is taught English from an early age, why would they learn it with a variety of accents? I’d imagine it would be studied intensively with one or two standardized pronunciations, and Picard would’ve learned RP.

 

Hey,they only took back the territories lost by King John in the 1200's. The new Angevin Empire laid the foundations for the European Hegemony.

 

I have been binge watching Star Trekiscovery during this past week. My first time seeing these episodes. I am half way through season two. My take is it is as exciting as watching TOS the first time, years ago. I was only about four years old; but I remember it. My stepdad teased me constantly about being "in Love with ole Captain Kirk". I have no idea why but it has stuck with me. I DO love Captain Kirk. I think the buildup over Spock is over the top; and I just wished they would get on with it already. Bringing TOS into Discovery for Pike and Spock was too weird.

Spoiler: Discovery Season 2

They did do a good job of recreating the Talosians, though. I am thoroughly enjoying Discovery.

 

Look I don't want to watch DISCOVERY if its going to assasinate TOS stalwarts.
I don't agree they need to have depth added to them by having a dark/edgy past.
What's next? Do we find out that Kirk was actually one of Kodos' lieutenants?

Look I realise that Sarek/Michael/Amanda/Pike are now DISCOVERY's characters and thus are the new heroes. We get to see that Sarek is "justified" in his treatment of Spock. That Michael is responsible for every good thing that Spock has done etc. OK OK maybe some exaggeration here but you know maybe it needs to be done to make DISCOVERY relevant. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean its wrong for DISCOVERY to do it. After all like someone else said I'm not in DISCOVERY's target audience.

But I'm not that worried about the new technology except maybe in sick bay.After all Discovery is an experimental ship.

 

Discovery tries to make Spock an incomplete character in TOS by shoving in unnecessary backstory. When, from my perspective, Spock was probably the most fleshed out character in the history of the franchise. He had a satisfying character arc that starts in (in-universe) "Yesteryear" and ends with Star Trek (2009).

I understand the decisions made from a business perspective, but there was no need for Discovery to mess around with Spock's backstory from a creative standpoint.

 

Because unless you’re learning English in a specific native-speaking environment, ESL tends to use RP or General American, though phonetics experts are open to worldwide accents as long the speaker is being understood. The intent on Star Trek doesn’t seem to be a variety of Earth languages handled by the universal translator, or we would’ve seen some ongoing evidence thereof; it just sounds like everyone is learning English really well.

 

Folks who live 45 minutes down the road from me have a different accent from me, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about it. Classroom accents don't usually have that level of influence, and native speakers can be some of the most stubborn about it.

 

Yes, but I’m talking about English as a Second Language students (which Picard seems to have been), not native speakers with various native accents.

 

But why pretend that if we extrapolate the current predominance of English in global communication into a United Earth that became part of UFP? Some people, like Chekov, might be more proud of their heritage and choose to keep their native accents; others wouldn’t care as much so they’d use a standardized pronunciation; still others would be native speakers with a variety of native accents.

 

In countries where English is taught from an early age in addition to the local language(s), accents are very common. Michelle Yeoh's first language was English, for example.

Kor

 

Yep, that's my take also. Both shows have their charms, just for different reasons.

 

On the whole, STD is not at all good. It sure looks expensive, though.

 

I hope they get their act together as far as the writing goes with season three.

 

Yeah, I'm not real concerned by it. There's enough entertaining stuff on TV...