Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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Because as she said, you wrote in in such a way that appears very condescending.
Well, penalize me for treason!
Hey could that probe that attacked the shuttle have come from the machine planet that built V'Ger? Maybe the future version of Control is hiding out on that world and that's where it came from.
Then, "The suit is capable of creating wormholes of varying sizes. A small wormhole will suck in just the suit itself. A larger wormhole, an entire church. An even larger wormhole, a starship? An even larger wormhole, the swirly thing over Kaminar that creates a time tsunami."
For your other problems could argue that they were acting as though the other shoe could drop and weren't going to risk gettin luled into a false sense of security that Control was disabled and went on with the original plan to be sure. That's a very simple explanation, and follows what the narrative provided us.
Mrs. Burnham created the suit, I'm sure she's a tad more aware of it's functions and more than capable of making it do things like extending it's range in order to envelop the entire church she was floating right in the middle of.
*Neuralyzer flash* There's no such thing as a Crossfield class. There's never been such a thing as a Crossfield class.
Easy just to blame Klingon saboteurs for everything there too"
Nevermind the fact that Leland's remains have traveled to the future with them. Has anyone brought that up yet?
We have always been at war with the Klingons. We have always been at peace with the Romulans. You know how "utopias" are.
You want to leave them in the 23rd century?
Wasn't that the plan all along anyway, though, however problematic? The plan was to escape to the future to avoid being found by Leland. Leaving him behind makes him Starfleet's problem. It would've made more sense if they threw HIM into the future rather than the sphere data.
There were still remnants of Control left. At the end of the episode it is specifically mentioned that the remainder of Control was eradicated.
Oh you'll just LUV the Tantalus Penal Colony.
I believe that Dr. Tristan Adams has just taken over as the Director.
I hear he has exciting new ideas for the rehabilitation of offenders like you.
I said the exact opposite. Literally the exact opposite. You made it sound like one could only enjoy DISCO if one turned off one's brain, which implies that fans lack sophistication if not intelligence. I dislike the attitude regardless of intent. I then said that everyone's opinion is equally valid. Maybe don't get defensive over misunderstood criticism? I never attack nor dismiss anyone who disagrees with me. Ever.
That doesn't really work as far as I can tell, because Mama Burnham travelled back to WW3. As we know, the elastic band effect would pull her (and the church) back to her start point centuries ahead of that time, yet the church was deposited not in her time but in the 21st century Beta Quadrant.
If you can use the wormholes to do basically anything and send anything anywhere, then why can't we just abandon Discovery and wormhole it into the galactic core, or even just any sun?
But the only reason they had to double-time it into the wormhole was, apparently, the enclosing Section 31 army. With that disabled, there wasn't any reason to go into the future and maroon themselves right away, there was theoretically endless time to find an alternative.
And the wormhole idea doesn't feel justified in the first place, because the show didn't really detail why we can't do the extremely obvious idea of destroying Discovery. The data won't let us delete it and it raised the shields when we fired at it, therefore the only alternative is to sacrifice all our lives as we know them and permanently strand ourselves in an unknown time period, with the data still intact and only Discovery (crewed only by Burnham and her mates) to defend it? It feels like we missed a few steps.
The way Tyler asked if they've neutralized it and the investigator only replied with a curt "We have" indicated to me there's a story there left untold. Explaining just a little bit more would've helped me a great deal to sleep at night.
The dead body is only a problem if they are foolish enough to leave it in the Spore Room before turning off the magnetic field that Georgieu created.
It looked to me like the once she turned it on it pulled all the nanites out.
Right, but the army it sent after the data, and its avatar in Leland, had been defeated. Putting aside the validity of the wormhole plan to start with, why was it still necessary to jump immediately? There was no immediate threat and the data was securely back in Discovery's hands. And if whatever's left of Control could be (apparently) purged by Starfleet, it seems like the crew doomed themselves to be stranded in the far future for virtually no reason.
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