Trek always walks rather than beam within ship for reasons. But they still could have at least considered the transporter for the Admiral given that they use it for Spock later on.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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I agree completely. That's why I really, really don't care when some stuff doesn't add up in my fiction. I care about connecting emotionally with the characters and feeling drawn into the story.
I don't buy the "let us see him scream" thing. As Saru said, it's not a real person, it's just a bunch of nanoprobres stuck together. Why would it scream? Why would it even feel pain? If we feel pain it's because of millions of years of Natural selection and it serves a purpose but the entity has no use for pain, it's just mimicking a human shape. I just find that part a bit stupid.
She just likes the sound of screams I guess. not really surprising, though.
Frustration because of failure? Some emotional responses because it was using Leland's brain and connected too strongly with it? I am really good at defending dumb tv bullshit, you see.
are you applying stone cold logic when you are really angry
Frustration because of failure? Some emotional responses because it was using Leland's brain and connected too strongly with it? I am really good at defending dumb tv bullshit, you see.
They make that same mistake in Terminator II, I mean the schwarzy kind seem to face death with the impassibility of a machine but then there's the second kind (liquid metal and all that) that scream and get all agitated when death is inevitable... I mean IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING!!! DAMN IT!!!
It doesn't explain why there isn't a lever on both sides of the door. What if the torpedo had hit 5 feet further in?
Further, in Disaster, Picard had a sensible piece of kit that could unlock magnetic locks to allow automatic doors to be opened and closed. A piece of kit one would hope a damage control team could provide in their 15 minute window .
You can admire the sacrifice but it was only really needed due to incompetence. It would have been better to kill her trying to do something sensible that didn't work rather than something dumb that did IMO.
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Well, there is 'realistic' and then there is making barest minimum of logical sense. Even in fantastic fiction the story should make sense within its own context, and it really doesn't here. Managing to keep it straight for both parts of the same two-parter episode how many time jumps the suit can make shouldn't be too much to ask. Or that their basic plan and the reasons for it would actually make sense.
are you applying stone cold logic when you are really angry
Logic is the beginning of wisdom not... I think I've watched too much ST lately...
My emotional connection suffers if setting up those scenes is done via idiot ball.
Eh, honestly? I thought the T1000 was not entirely emotionless. The actor certainly didn't play him like that. The machines are products of human beings. The thought that some emotionality might have seeped into these things gives the whole story more depth as far as I'm concerned. They're more like us than they think, being human creations etc. That's what I meant when I said I don't care when details don't add up logically, as long as the story interests me and the characters are three-dimensional. It's probably just a mistake, but since I don't mind that, I can create an explanation that makes sense to me - because T2 is one of my favourite movies of all time. Same thing where Control is concerned.
That does not mean the complaint is in any way not valid. There are things that bug me in books/shows/movies that others may not care about. This is just something I personally am not bothered by in the slightest.
Which again is a subjective thing - valid but subjective. I'm sure you love some show/movie/book with dumb shit in it that you don't mind. Media is seldom perfect.
If you pay really close attention to the scene, you'll realize that immediately on the other side of that door, is a Turbolift.
There's no corridor for there to be a matching lever.
Spock wasn't standing next to a live Torpedo about to go off.
They may have been hesitant to expose the wonky weapon to a massive amount of displacement energy.
Which also might have come along with Cornwell's matterstream into the transporter room.
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It could have been screaming because Georgieu outsmarted him and he was really, REALLY pizzed off.
(Fook, did it again, sorry for the multiple posts)
My bad. I didn't know that Turbolifts opened directly into rooms apart from the bridge, main engineering and the cargo bay, let alone rooms at the edge of the saucer but I'm more familiar with the TMP Enterprise.
Heh...
Yer watchin' Star Trek, when has everything ever been completely consistent.
Also based on the damage shown to the primary hull, it's pretty obvious that they weren't standing right next to the outer edge.
This also confirms that...
(remember that the Enterprise is A LOT bigger now so there's a bunch of space between Pike in the turbolift and the rim or the primary hull)
Also, I still fail to understand why folks always look for the negative in things, rather than being just a tad bit imaginative.
How about embracing the Positive and FUN aspects of Figuring Things Out For Themselves.
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In the Special Edition towards the end the T1000 starts breaking down involuntarily absorbing the material it's in contact with so it could be seen as an extension of that. (Watched way too much T2 as a kid...)
There's also that guy at Starfleet HQ that debriefs Pike, Number One, Spock and Tyler. He might be another one of Control's recreations. They don't even seem to show his entire face for some reason.
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