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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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Lol great minds think alike
Great episode. Still, not sure why they had to go into the future if Leland was neutralized?
I sort of wish they went only say 400 years in the future, to keep a certain continuity with later ST series’ events. 10 centuries in the future could change everything. Will the Federation still be there? Will people travel between galaxies by then? Temporal Cold War anyone?
Craft story - and certainly the V’ydraish - will likely be a part of it, but maybe not. Also, where in the Beta Quadrant is Terralysium? Closer to Borg space or to the galaxy edge?
Possibilities are now endless, as is the chance to explore new technologies etc. I am happy they are done with prequels - in such a rich universe they are very problematic while the future is always a blank slate.
I sort of wish they went only say 400 years in the future, to keep a certain continuity with later ST series’ events. 10 centuries in the future could change everything. Will the Federation still be there? Will people travel between galaxies by then? Temporal Cold War anyone?
Craft story - and certainly the V’ydraish - will likely be a part of it, but maybe not. Also, where in the Beta Quadrant is Terralysium? Closer to Borg space or to the galaxy edge?
Possibilities are now endless, as is the chance to explore new technologies etc. I am happy they are done with prequels - in such a rich universe they are very problematic while the future is always a blank slate.
They were using the Ba’ul’s tech.
Wasn’t there a similar effect in Voyage Home?
No, it isn’t dead.
I honestly thought for like 2 seconds that the pan down to the Enterprise at the very end was going to show it a bit more TOS.
Well didn't Craft in Calypso say they were fighting the V'draysh?
Federation. V sounds like F as in German V'd = Fed, dray=derat, sh=tion. Like in Omega Glory, perhaps over time the word for Federation got jumbled up and they will turn out to be the enemy in S3.
I wonder why we didn't see that guy's face - the one who did the interrogations. Is he a good guy, or a bad guy. Were those interrogations the start of something that doesn't reach fruition for hundreds of years?
I know, crazy. But what the hell. We have nothing to do but speculate for MONTHS.
As for the finale, I gave it a 9. I'm very stingy with my scores, rarely going over an 8. I've not given a 10 yet. I know it had flaws, but I think I can live with a 9. It was either that or an 8 but the ending bumped it up, methinks.
Federation. V sounds like F as in German V'd = Fed, dray=derat, sh=tion. Like in Omega Glory, perhaps over time the word for Federation got jumbled up and they will turn out to be the enemy in S3.
I wonder why we didn't see that guy's face - the one who did the interrogations. Is he a good guy, or a bad guy. Were those interrogations the start of something that doesn't reach fruition for hundreds of years?
I know, crazy. But what the hell. We have nothing to do but speculate for MONTHS.
As for the finale, I gave it a 9. I'm very stingy with my scores, rarely going over an 8. I've not given a 10 yet. I know it had flaws, but I think I can live with a 9. It was either that or an 8 but the ending bumped it up, methinks.
Here ya go...
I know it's not possible, but it almost looks like Leland from that angle.
OMFG!! That was so FREAKIN' AWESOME! I loved it. It basically mixed all of Star Trek into one episode. Very derived from JJ-verse, for starters.
"Evasive pattern Delta Five! All power to forward shields!" -- verbatim from ST'09.
The whole battle was evocative of TUC / ST'09. Burnham's spacejump was plucked from STiD. The Control "swarm" from ST:B.
Loved the rock debris on the bridge from explosions. Very TNG! Nice to see Starfleet Headquarters, too. As Discovery is entering the wormhole, we get to see the streamer effects from TMP of the Enterprise in the wormhole! The only thing missing was Chekov's line "Proooooojeeecttttiiiinggggggg aaaasssssttteeeerrrrrroooiiiiiiddddddd......"
Lastly, the send-off on the Enterprise. Again, very TMP / ST'09.
I look forward to what the future holds, to semi-quote Spock. Love this!!!
"Evasive pattern Delta Five! All power to forward shields!" -- verbatim from ST'09.
The whole battle was evocative of TUC / ST'09. Burnham's spacejump was plucked from STiD. The Control "swarm" from ST:B.
Loved the rock debris on the bridge from explosions. Very TNG! Nice to see Starfleet Headquarters, too. As Discovery is entering the wormhole, we get to see the streamer effects from TMP of the Enterprise in the wormhole! The only thing missing was Chekov's line "Proooooojeeecttttiiiinggggggg aaaasssssttteeeerrrrrroooiiiiiiddddddd......"
Lastly, the send-off on the Enterprise. Again, very TMP / ST'09.
I look forward to what the future holds, to semi-quote Spock. Love this!!!
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I think he’s just supposed to be a faceless interrogator. Like those people that sentenced Michael in the second episode.
One piece of dialogue from L’Rell confused me, she only referred to ‘THE D7’ was coming, not multiple, yet there were like 5 at the battle.
It was confirmed by the writer of Calypso that the name is an evolution of the word Federation.
I think she just slurred the plural part of that sentence with her Klingonese.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm surprised Craft didn't recognize Discovery as an "Ancient" V'draysh ship, then. It was always unconventional-looking, even from the time of the original Ralph McQuarries design, but it still looks like a Starfleet ship all the same. Maybe the designs have changed so much, he couldn't tell.
Plus everything "DISCOVERY" related, had been wiped from the historical records including what she looked like.
That would have assumed there were no latent copies of Control somewhere in the 23rd century. Maybe not but they weren't going to pause and wait to find out.
I'm sure she learned arc-seconds like anyone with with a college education but she needed quick answers to do her job, not a lot of details she didn't need to be clouded with to make a call while she's sitting in center seat.So Number One goes from being a super-smart, logical mind on par with Spock to someone who can't handle mild technobabble from Detmer?
Best space battle I've seen on small screen, including Expanse. Very cinematic
It's tough to accept, but some people are saying "we don't know they won't be back...." I think it's pretty clear they won't based on the "cone of silence" that was made a huge plot point here.
Although, if there is a hope, maybe THAT's the Calypso tie-in. The crew makes it back, perhaps for the series finale, and leaves the ship behind.
Although, if there is a hope, maybe THAT's the Calypso tie-in. The crew makes it back, perhaps for the series finale, and leaves the ship behind.
Season 2 was plotted out prior to September 2017 and they didn't make any changes based upon fan reaction or other circumstances?
I suppose it was always their plan to kill Airiam, and it was just good luck for Mitich that she had problems with the makeup that forced her to change characters?
So basically it turns into Voyager?
Minus setting a course for home and reset buttons being pressed from one episode to the next.
This Klingon almost looks he could be from TNG
Also I’m sad, there were no good close up shots of the D7, and all of them were in the dark, so no details could be made out.
Going to have to wait for merchandise renders I guess.
That reminded me more of the scene from TUC where Chang tells his crew to cloak and engage the Enterprise, and the lowly bridge officer complies. Looked the same.
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