Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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I gave it a 9, because it was a frigging slam-bang hour of television and had probably the most epic battle in the franchise's history, burying Nemesis and Battle at the Binary Stars pretty soundly.
It wasn't flawless by any stretch, and in the grand scheme of the franchise, I'm not sure I like where this is going at all.
But, as I always do, judging it purely on in-the-moment entertainment value and fun, this was really a trip. It was an awesome hour of diverting, visually astounding fun.
It wasn't flawless by any stretch, and in the grand scheme of the franchise, I'm not sure I like where this is going at all.
But, as I always do, judging it purely on in-the-moment entertainment value and fun, this was really a trip. It was an awesome hour of diverting, visually astounding fun.
This is probably why they've said it will follow season three of Discovery.
I have enjoyed that Yeoh gets the same "special guest star" billing for playing the camp Georgiou that Jonathan Harris got for playing the camp Dr. Smith on Lost in Space.
Wondering when the S31 show will be set. My current blind guess is the beginning of the 24th century. Georgiou comes back... from the future
Did anyone else have a problem watching the Discovery s2 finale? Every time it gets to the point where Discovery disappears through the wormhole into the future the video changes from being the Discovery S2 finale to the beginning of Pike's Star Trek Enterprise spinoff.
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It's like my consolation prize for taking what they said about being more careful about tie-ins to heart and then seeing them walk all over the novel Fuller specifically requested this season; a backdoor reference to the generally accepted novelverse constellation of explanations of Number One's name.
(For the uninitiated, a theory going back to Majel Barrett and DC Fontana was that Number One was from a planet where there was such a meritocracy that people were literally ranked, and she was the best of the best (though apparently not great at geometry, weird for a space-pilot but okay), so she's not just Pike's Number One on the Enterprise, she is Number One, period. There's also a side-branch that she does have a more traditional name, but it's unpronounceable by Earthers. Either way, "Una" was adopted by her as a nickname when being addressed as Number One might not be appropriate, which was first established in the "Legacies" 50th anniversary novel trilogy, and carried forward in the first DSC novel, "Desperate Hours").
If that's what you think. I think there were a lot of potentially interesting and exciting ways to tell the story of why, for example, the spore drive project appears to have become unviable and abandoned in 10 years' time, but if you'd rather it be quarantined in the distant future while everyone collectively agrees to just not mention it again, sure.
There are suggestions/implications that the writing staff had their hand forced by internet commentators. That's ridiculous, anything the writers include in the show is their own choice. Kurtzman has been talking since the season premiered about how he's interesting in addressing perceived issues regarding canon, there's no reason not to assume that he made that decision personally, without being somehow harangued by fans. That the solution seems to have turned out to be awkward and unsatisfying to many/some is not the fault of random nobodies on YouTube or forums, it's down to the writing staff who came up with that solution.
Just because you're smart, doesn't mean you already know everything. That's one thing my mother drummed into me over and over when I was a youngling.So Number One goes from being a super-smart, logical mind on par with Spock to someone who can't handle mild technobabble from Detmer?
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Up until the last 3 weeks, I thought it was ridiculous too, and made strong posts to that very point.
Now, I not only think it's possible, but that it's actually highly likely.
Seems to me they can go back post TOS into movie era Trek without an issue. Plenty of space between the movies. They can also check archives to see if they did!
Bizarre that they were standing on some sort of platform but we don’t know what it is. And bizarre they defeat Control and go forward anyway.
And where is the damnable data?
More importantly will we see mom in year 3?
Enterprise looked great and who knew photon torpedoes were so easily contained. Those matter-anti matter gamma rays aren’t what they’re cracked up to be.
Bbyee Ash.
8 for me. Needed to see Disco again.
Bizarre that they were standing on some sort of platform but we don’t know what it is. And bizarre they defeat Control and go forward anyway.
And where is the damnable data?
More importantly will we see mom in year 3?
Enterprise looked great and who knew photon torpedoes were so easily contained. Those matter-anti matter gamma rays aren’t what they’re cracked up to be.
Bbyee Ash.
8 for me. Needed to see Disco again.
So Number One goes from being a super-smart, logical mind on par with Spock to someone who can't handle mild technobabble from Detmer?
Nowhere in any canon material was Number One established as super smart and having a logical mind on par with Spock.
That's tie-ins, fanwank, and production bible notes from an unaired pilot (which don't count).
I don't think the nacelles are straight...Those looked like straight nacelle struts to me in the closing bit, bringing the discoprise closer to TOS. Explains the conflicting images from earlier in the year. More Eaglemoss models on the way
And I'd definitely be up for a Pike spin off.
I didn't understand that either. If Leland was defeated, (and actually aboard the damn ship) why did they still need to go through time?
I also asked out loud what Spock and Burnham had landed on.
The most exciting part of the time jump.
I thought the same thing about the torpedoes but then you saw a good chunk of the saucer section was gone after it detonated, and the Admiral specifically says that closing the blast door will save the bridge crew so I guess that those are some super enforced sectional blast doors...
Still doesn't make a lot of sense, bit then again the quantumuantum torpedoes the Borg fires in first contact couldn't even kill a guy on a bike or blow up a building made of sheet metal (I just watcewa it this afternoon). Torpedoes are as powerful as the or needs them to be.
(from the Cage)
Number One: Offspring as in he's Adam. Is that it?
Vina: You're no better choice. They'd have more luck crossing him with a computer.
Keeper: Each of the two new specimens has qualities in her favour. The female you call Number One has the superior mind and would produce highly intelligent children. Although she seems to lack emotion, this is largely a pretense.
At least that bizarre theory of Cornwell becoming Lethe was literally blown into space.
I bet we will for sure.
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