Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x12 - "Through the Valley of Shadows"

[fireproof78]

Given the huge number of random freaking accidents that Starfleet vessels encounter Pike could have all the prep done in the world and still end up in an accident. The Enterprise D was supposed to be top of line and strikes a singularity that pretty much disables all the systems save for the primary ones, and stranding senior officers all over the ship.

 

[Yistaan]

Given the huge number of random freaking accidents that Starfleet vessels encounter Pike could have all the prep done in the world and still end up in an accident. The Enterprise D was supposed to be top of line and strikes a singularity that pretty much disables all the systems save for the primary ones, and stranding senior officers all over the ship.

And don't forget holodecks. Those rooms are disasters waiting to happen :O Bullets with safety features easily disabled, getting trapped inside and being fooled into thinking it's reality, literary supervillains gaining sentience...

It does seem interesting that in the many interior ship explosions we've seen across the franchise, none of them ever emitted delta radiation. Although there was a mention of it in the Mirror Enterprise episodes.

 

[Tuskin38]

One would think so.

If Pike knew all along that there was going to be an accident on that cadet training ship, he would have taken steps to make sure it never happened. He'd order a new set of baffle plates to be installed so that one couldn't rupture and cause the radiation leak.

Not necessarily.

 

[Yistaan]

The assumption is that Pike himself would be avoiding training exercises. But honestly it might come from on top.

Commodore Mendez: Chris, Starfleet Command is still concerned about your Boreth report and we're not letting you run any inspection tours or training assignments. You're going to do Academy lecturing and desk work. You can thank us later.

 

[Tuskin38]

The assumption is that Pike himself would be avoiding training exercises. But honestly it might come from on top.

Commodore Mendez: Chris, Starfleet Command is still concerned about your Boreth report and we're not letting you run any inspection tours or training assignments. You're going to do Academy lecturing and desk work. You can thank us later.

Not if he didn't report on it. He might not want to alter the timeline.

 

[Yistaan]

Not if he didn't report on it. He might not want to alter the timeline.

He's no Picard, who gleefully invalidated the 'All Good Things' future timeline by telling his crew everything without any knowledge of whether this would undo the hard-won victory against the temporal anomaly.

Besides, how would telling the vision in a report harm things? Pike has the time crystal. Is it going to magically disappear if he files a report?

 

[Tuskin38]

Off camera footage Pike's accident scene

https://twitter.com/ansonmount/status/1115722629732818945

 

[lawman]

Interesting. More visibly active *rescuing* going on in that footage!...

 

[Succubint]

Great to see BTS action. Love how focused he is considering all the mayhem. That fireman's lift was smooth as F.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

The assumption is that Pike himself would be avoiding training exercises. But honestly it might come from on top.

Yeah no. Mendez and co would probably say 'cool story bro' and move on. Like Kirk says, risk is part of the game if you want to sit in the big chair. No way pike would accept desk duty considering his reaction to being kept out of the Klingon war.

Commodore Mendez: Chris, Starfleet Command is still concerned about your Boreth report and we're not letting you run any inspection tours or training assignments. You're going to do Academy lecturing and desk work. You can thank us later.

 

[Lord Garth]

If Pike can mold the crew of Discovery, he can mold the next generation (no pun intended) of Starfleet Officers. He's an example of what the Academy wants cadets to become like when they're officers.

"Yeah! I had an experience with a Time Crystal!" is likely to make Starfleet skeptical of that. "We've seen some weird stuff, but..." The Admirals would be like General Peterson having a funny look on his face after whenever Doctor Bellows would tell him whatever he saw Major Nelson doing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

If Pike can mold the crew of Discovery, he can mold the next generation (no pun intended) of Starfleet Officers. He's an example of what the Academy wants cadets to become like when they're officers.

"Yeah! I had an experience with a Time Crystal!" is likely to make Starfleet skeptical of that. "We've seen some weird stuff, but..." The Admirals would be like General Peterson having a funny look on his face after whenever Doctor Bellows would tell him whatever he saw Major Nelson doing.

I'm sure Admiral Morrow would say "Honestly, I never understood Klingon mysticism."

 

[Yistaan]

I'm sure Admiral Morrow would say "Honestly, I never understood Klingon mysticism."

Yet he'll rely on that same mystic klingon time crystal to save the federation. The hypocrisy!

 

[Agony_Boothb]

One would think so.

If Pike knew all along that there was going to be an accident on that cadet training ship, he would have taken steps to make sure it never happened. He'd order a new set of baffle plates to be installed so that one couldn't rupture and cause the radiation leak.

He didn't know which ship the accident occurred on. Pike might do dozens of inspections tours a year when he becomes fleet captain. Maybe replacing the baffle plate is part of the problem. Like when the enterprise d was fitted with a new part to its dilithium chamber that had undetectable flaws that caused the accident in the drumhead

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I'm sure Admiral Morrow would say "Honestly, I never understood Klingon mysticism."

"The Discovery is old. It's filled with mold spores. Its day is over."

 

[Vger23]

He's no Picard, who gleefully invalidated the 'All Good Things' future timeline by telling his crew everything without any knowledge of whether this would undo the hard-won victory against the temporal anomaly.

Besides, how would telling the vision in a report harm things? Pike has the time crystal. Is it going to magically disappear if he files a report?

The ...All Good Things future was just part of Q's foolish shenanigans, and not the actual future of Picard's timeline. I never viewed it any other way.

 

[Longinus]

The ...All Good Things future was just part of Q's foolish shenanigans, and not the actual future of Picard's timeline. I never viewed it any other way.

I think it was 'real'. It was just an alternate future. Picard seemed to believe it was real as well. Same with the events of 'Tapestry'.

 

[Yistaan]

The ...All Good Things future was just part of Q's foolish shenanigans, and not the actual future of Picard's timeline. I never viewed it any other way.

And how is Picard supposed to know that at the time? We as the audience have 25 years of hindsight now.

 

[Lord Garth]

"The Discovery is old. It's filled with mold spores. Its day is over."

Discovery's hidden, almost out of sight, in Spacedock. The mold is unsightly. Then the Enterprise comes in, looking just as beat up as Rocky at the beginning of Rocky V.

Then Uhura sees the Excelsior, all pristine and pretty, and says, "Would you look at that?" And that's when the Enterprise and Discovery knew something had to be done. "Good morning, Captain."

 

[Vger23]

And how is Picard supposed to know that at the time? We as the audience have 25 years of hindsight now.

It's the way I looked at it when I first was the show in 1994. It seemed pretty obvious to me. If Picard couldn't figure that out....I guess that's on him.