In 2019? People would riot.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x12 - "Through the Valley of Shadows"
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LoL! the show isn't even PG-13.
Touche.
I got it backwards though oopsIn 2019? People would riot.
I gave this one a 9. It's not really quite that high, more like an 8.5, but I'm feeling generous because of the amazing Pike story. You can't watch The Menagerie the same way.
So much good stuff in the episode. Loved watching Michael and Spock work together. I was dreading the Klingon stuff, but that worked very well. L'rell, the Monks at the time temple, and the stuff with Ash. The, Pike's story was fantastic. We got to see the infamous accident that we've only heard about and his visceral reaction to it. And, his decision to lock in that fate.
My guess had been that Ash was the Red Angel. My reasoning was that he'd follow Michael around protecting her. He also fit the bill for being lonely. I had failed to register the dialog where they indicated the RA was female. However, I'm guessing that he is somehow responsible for the signals. He's the one who will send those signals. And, it's convenient that his son is in position of a butt ton of time crystals!
I'm very much looking forward to the final two parts!
So much good stuff in the episode. Loved watching Michael and Spock work together. I was dreading the Klingon stuff, but that worked very well. L'rell, the Monks at the time temple, and the stuff with Ash. The, Pike's story was fantastic. We got to see the infamous accident that we've only heard about and his visceral reaction to it. And, his decision to lock in that fate.
My guess had been that Ash was the Red Angel. My reasoning was that he'd follow Michael around protecting her. He also fit the bill for being lonely. I had failed to register the dialog where they indicated the RA was female. However, I'm guessing that he is somehow responsible for the signals. He's the one who will send those signals. And, it's convenient that his son is in position of a butt ton of time crystals!
I'm very much looking forward to the final two parts!
And the monks in the monastery reminded me of the wraith from SGA lol
What I don't understand is why even in the 21st century sci-fi writers still treat data as something tangible, like liquid in a jar - data can be copied and not affect the original source - it's always like 'omg they downloaded 29% of the database... we lost almost a third of our data' as if no one knows how to use 'copy-paste' anymore - same with the resolution of the episode 'oh we can't delete the data, blow the ship!' as if there isn't a central computer core they couldn't just eject and then let an EMP off to blow the rest of the data out of any other devices it may 'hide' in - and then reinstall a new core later - it's like 'oh that laptop has to be shredded, it had sensitive data'. and then some smartie pants goes and just removes the hard drive... 'there - data gone' and chuck the hard drive in a shredder or just take a hammer to it.
I wonder if we will see him play Prime Lorca? A joke to all the people who went on the Cruise.
I should have anticipated that joke, but I didn't.
Well. Now we know what the inside of a J-class training vessel looks like. A lot like a redressed Discovery engine room.
I gave it a 9 as well. Pacing was great this episode. All the stories worked, even the Klingon ones. I'll need to look at who was writing and directing, because this is the kind of quality content I look for.
Anson Mount's Pike needs his own show. Even if they only give us a limited series, I'd love to see more.
It's not in the firmware, that comes on Tuesday.
THANKS A LOT, ADMIRAL "BLACKJACK" HARRIMAN.
I find it odd that people look at current technology for their solutions with computer systems 200 years in the future.
What makes you think Starships in the 23rd century just have one computer core? That isn't even 21st century thinking. That's 1960s thinking. They probably have decentralized computer systems the equivalent size of our entire planetary internet on each ship to ensure one lucky hit, or a single accident doesn't disable the ship and kill everyone on board. Good luck ejecting the entire internet from planet Earth.
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Poor Pike. 
Data was able to isolate the main computer of the Enterprise with a fractal encryption code to protect it from the Borg very easily. Something they have so much trouble doing in Discovery was literally done by Data in a few seconds in First Contact.
Yes, but first of all that was Data, and it was also in a different century. And it was also from a script written in the "old days" which were also in a different century.
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