Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x12 - "Through the Valley of Shadows"

[SolarisOne]

Just to prove I can say something negative about Discovery, I wish they'd remember that phasers can vaporize people.

Depends on how durable you are.

 

[KennyB]

Got to the end. Didn't see that twist coming the way it did.

I think this episode is the best one since "If Memory Serves" but doesn't quite match it, even though it has a lot of suspense and Boreth was a treat. I'm calling it a 9.

This was a great episode for Pike. And for L'Rell and Tyler, the former of whom now accepts and sees Tyler as Tyler instead of Voq.

That's exactly my feeling and score as well.........

 

[Vger23]

Got to the end. Didn't see that twist coming the way it did.

I think this episode is the best one since "If Memory Serves" but doesn't quite match it, even though it has a lot of suspense and Boreth was a treat. I'm calling it a 9.

The designs on Boreth were awesome.

When Pike initially arrives, it reminded me a bit of Batman Begins.

 

[Tuskin38]

Maybe the Discovery phasers Pre-date the vaporization option.

 

[thribs]

Look, I can buy time crystals, mirror universes, and spore drives, but if you want Tig Notaro to play a straight woman ... that's beyond ridiculous.

Yeah, I always assumed she would be playing a homosexual. Probably the main reason she got the gig in the first place.

 

[Vger23]

Maybe the Discovery phasers Pre-date the vaporization option.

Nah, Cornwell vaporized some fortune cookies last season.

 

[Alan Roi]

Nah, Cornwell vaporized some fortune cookies last season.

Takes a lot less energy to vaporize a hundred grams than it does a hundred kilos.

 

[Vger23]

Takes a lot more energy to vaporize a hundred grams than it does a hundred kilos.

True enough...but there actually were some Phaser disintegrations in Season 1.

 

[Lord Garth]

The Enterprise-A has a better alarm system than the Discovery.

 

[GNDN18]

I must admit though, I've often wondered...how does distance/range factor into a concept like telepathy?

Heinlein’s Time for the Stars involves a long range colony ship that communicates with Earth via telepathic relatives. Even though the vessel is limited by the speed of light, thought transmission was virtually instantaneous.

 

[Kor]

Or Control-enhanced humans have some kind of enhancement that resists the phaser's "vaporize" setting. Implausible? This is space opera!

Kor

 

[SolarisOne]

Heinlein’s Time for the Stars involves a long range colony ship that communicates with Earth via telepathic relatives. Even though the vessel is limited by the speed of light, thought transmission was virtually instantaneous.

How the hell is that supposed to work. Even if you posit that the brain can act as a transceiver of sorts, the signals are still going to be limited to the fastest allowed speed. In Trek, thanks to the existence of subspace, that's FTL. In the universe you just described, it's c.

Or Control-enhanced humans have some kind of enhancement that resists the phaser's "vaporize" setting. Implausible? This is space opera!

The would be one of the least implausible things about this series.

 

[GNDN18]

How the hell is that supposed to work. Even if you posit that the brain can act as a transceiver of sorts, the signals are still going to be limited to the fastest allowed speed. In Trek, thanks to the existence of subspace, that's FTL. In the universe you just described, it's c.

The would be one of the least implausible things about this series.

I didn’t write the story. I merely note that Heinlein explored the theme. The Wikipedia entry on the novel references some kind of thought experiment in special relativity that formed the basis of the story.

ETA I was 12 or 13 when I read the book, so my memory is fuzzy on the details. As it happens, I thought this idea wa in another Heinlein book, Universe, altogether.

 

[Vger23]

The Enterprise-A has a better alarm system than the Discovery.

The Enterprise-A is all kinds of awesome, though.

 

[SolarisOne]

I didn’t write the story.

I'm aware, unless you're secretly Heinlein. Over thirty years after his death. Posting on a Star Trek BBS.

 

[GNDN18]

I'm aware, unless you're secretly Heinlein. Over thirty years after his death. Posting on a Star Trek BBS.

Well, if anyone could pull that off, it would be Heinlein. Although he’d still be peeved about that tribbles thing.

 

[Vger23]

Depends on how durable you are.

I myself am pretty damn durable.

 

[Lord Garth]

Depends on how durable you are.

This is a PG-13 board.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Look, I can buy time crystals, mirror universes, and spore drives, but if you want Tig Notaro to play a straight woman ... that's beyond ridiculous.

It is but also can they even hire a straight actor to play a gay character anymore?

 

[thribs]

This is a PG-13 board.

LoL! the show isn't even PG-13.