Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x10 - "The Red Angel"

[matthunter]

Anyone remember when "Rejoined" was about creating the first artificial wormhole? These guys had a working, miniaturized version of the tech in an Iron Man suit more than 100 years earlier.

First STABLE artificial wormhole. Stamets explicitly mentions that the microwormholes the RA suit makes are unstable and need a graviton beam to keep them open and tethered.

The Federation artificially made a wormhole back in TMP just by activating a dodgy warp drive.

 

[eschaton]

As I said, it may just be that in the future, Control has wiped out the Borg the same as all other sentient life, and has...assimilated...their technology.

Honestly though, the "all sentient life" thing is silly. Because even if Control could wipe out humanoid life, there are still all the various godlike energy beings in the Trekverse who would be nigh untouchable.

 

[Rhodan]

Anyone remember when "Rejoined" was about creating the first artificial wormhole? These guys had a working, miniaturized version of the tech in an Iron Man suit more than 100 years earlier.

Nobody remembers, becouse it was about two chicks kissing.

 

[XCV330]

As I said, it may just be that in the future, Control has wiped out the Borg the same as all other sentient life, and has...assimilated...their technology.

Honestly though, the "all sentient life" thing is silly. Because even if Control could wipe out humanoid life, there are still all the various godlike energy beings in the Trekverse who would be nigh untouchable.

Though seeing a giant green space hand give Control's tentacle army the mighty smack down while Q, whale-probe, Vger's Baby, the Thasians, the Organians, Kevin Uxbridge all line up for a piece of the new upstart would be kind of fun. You don't get promoted to God Tier by eliminating all the fun lower beings to play with. Q certainly wouldn't stand for it.

 

[F. King Daniel]

First STABLE artificial wormhole. Stamets explicitly mentions that the microwormholes the RA suit makes are unstable and need a graviton beam to keep them open and tethered.

The Federation artificially made a wormhole back in TMP just by activating a dodgy warp drive.

An unstable wormhole which they use a graviton beam on to... make it stable. Thus making it a stable wormhole, otherwise of course the suit's time travel feature would be useless.

 

[matthunter]

An unstable wormhole which they use a graviton beam on to... make it stable.

"This 10kg weight is defying gravity!!!"

"No, you're holding it off the floor"

 

[SG-17]

as I recall the Borg were around at least a few millenia, but they didn't seem to do a whole lot during that time. Maybe there is something to that. The Borg start to really make advancements when they obtain a queen to put "order to chaos"

Isaacs and Krige ARE both working together on the O.A. ...

The Vaadwuar thought of them only as minor nuisance that only controlled a handful of systems in the 15th century.

 

[Rhodan]

The Vaadwuar thought of them only as minor nuisance that only controlled a handful of systems in the 15th century.

Considering how were they finished, Vaadwuar might suffer from the case of too much confidence. Probably born out of repeated succesful trolling of ancient Talaxians.

 

[Skipper]

Nobody remembers, becouse it was about two chicks kissing.

The subplot featuring Kahn's artificial wormhole was described as a "macguffin" by Moore, and simply a way to get the character into "Rejoined".[4]

 

[Nerys Myk]

First STABLE artificial wormhole. Stamets explicitly mentions that the microwormholes the RA suit makes are unstable and need a graviton beam to keep them open and tethered.

The Federation artificially made a wormhole back in TMP just by activating a dodgy warp drive.

Good old Jim "Oopsy" Kirk.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Though seeing a giant green space hand give Control's tentacle army the mighty smack down while Q, whale-probe, Vger's Baby, the Thasians, the Organians, Kevin Uxbridge all line up for a piece of the new upstart would be kind of fun. You don't get promoted to God Tier by eliminating all the fun lower beings to play with. Q certainly wouldn't stand for it.

Trelane feels left out.

 

[Nyotarules]

Good old Jim "Oopsy" Kirk.

Whose ignorant, arrogant attitude of entitlement almost killed his crew

Trelane feels left out.

He's Baby Q

(I pray to Holy Mother Mary they leave the Borg out of this.)

 

[Rhodan]

Whose ignorant, arrogant attitude of entitlement almost killed his crew

He's Baby Q

(I pray to Holy Mother Mary they leave the Borg out of this.)

Ave Maria is futile...

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

God I hope not.

A lot of "plot logic" that did not compute in this episode (RA appearance = saving Burnham). Burnham punching Lealand.

Laland had just finished telling Burnham he felt he bore at least some responsibility for her parents' deaths. Granted, Leland might have been blaming himself up a bit too much about that, but I don't blame Burnham for reacting to the news the way she did.

Maybe once she thinks about it she would be more forgiving of Leland's relative carelessness in not considering that the Klingons could track the crystal. However, in that moment when he told her, I find it quite plausible that she would be upset enough to punch him.

 

[Kor]

I find it curious that the officer who took Airiam's station on the bridge was played by the same actress who played Airiam in season 1. Could there be some connection here?

Kor

 

[DaveyNY]

I find it curious that the officer who took Airiam's station on the bridge was played by the same actress who played Airiam in season 1. Could there be some connection here?

Kor

Only in the sense that we know the production reasons for the change and it's a fitting Easter-egg for that reason.

That scene played out as all of the bridge having an emotional Remembrance of Airiam moment.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I find it curious that the officer who took Airiam's station on the bridge was played by the same actress who played Airiam in season 1. Could there be some connection here?

Kor

I was wondering if maybe they recast Airiam because they knew they'd be killing her off, but wanted Sarah Mitch to stay on to play Airiam's replacement.

And yes...I do realize that they could have done that without temporarily replacing Mitch as Airiam with Hannah Chessman. However, it would have seemed more weird to have Mitch go directly from portraying Airiam to playing Airiam's non-augmented bridge replacement than it did to have her replace Chessman's Airiam in the non-direct fashion that she did.

At least I think THEY (the producers) thought that people might think it was weird.

Plus they couldn't have used Mitch in the flashback to the pre-accident Airiam -- although that's an extremely minor point, since they could have cast anyone for that flashback.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I was wondering if maybe they recast Airiam because they knew they'd be killing her off, but wanted Sarah Mitch to stay on to play Airiam's replacement.

And yes...I do realize that they could have done that without temporarily replacing Mitch as Airiam with Hannah Chessman. However, it would have seemed more weird to have Mitch go straight from portraying Airiam to playing Airiam's non-augmented replacement.

At least I think THEY (the producers) thought that people might think it was odd.

Plus they couldn't have used Mitch in the flashback to the pre-accident Airiam -- although that's an extremely minor point, since they could have cast anyone for that flashback.

The way I think it may have happened was that, if its true she stopped playing Airiam because she couldn't do the makeup, instead of just letting her go (since they wanted her in the first place) they temporarily gave her background extra work to keep her employed and wrote a way to get Airiam off the show and hired a new actress on a single-season contract. "Just bear with us for a little bit and you'll get the bridge position we hired you for! We promise!" The pieces just fit together: super computer, cyborg, evil AI...it writes itself! And now, with Airiam out of the picture, they can use the original actress they wanted to be on the bridge and use the scene for two purposes: remembering Airiam in-universe and a head nod to the out-universe circumstances.

It's like when Roseanne says, 'Where the hell have you been??' to Becky when the original actress came back to play her.

 

[Galaxy]

If she could not play the role because she developed an allergy to the makeup then Canada's disabilities act act may have made her almost impossible to fire.

 

[BillJ]

If she could not play the role because she developed an allergy to the makeup then Canada's disabilities act act may have made her almost impossible to fire.

On a show dependent on so many nameless background extras, there would be no need to fire her.