The Casting of this series is extremely bad

[urbandefault]

Quinto was the Spock for his time. As a Vulcan might say, "Acceptable."

I can't fully score Peck as Spock until I see him clean shaven and bowled.

 

[cooleddie74]

Both are fine additions to the franchise. I think Peck comes closer to Nimoy's take on the character and is thus the more "Spock-like."

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think they really got the wrong person to play Spock. He doesn't sound or look anything like Leonard Nimoy. At least Zachary Quinto looked and sounded fairly similar to Leonard Nimoy! I'm fine with the rest of the cast though.

Since he's not playing Leonard Nimoy, I'm not sure that matters.

 

[Hey Missy]

The problem is no one can get Nimoy's iconic, gravelly voice right unless they smoked thirty packs a day.

 

[Lord Garth]

The problem is no one can get Nimoy's iconic, gravelly voice right unless they smoked thirty packs a day.

Yeah, if Ethan Peck or Zachary Quinto sounded too much like Leonard Nimoy, that would be cause for concern not celebration!

 

[fireproof78]

Since he's not playing Leonard Nimoy, I'm not sure that matters.

Exactly so. I am certainly not expecting Quinto or Peck to replace Nimoy. But, they are additions to the franchise and I am glad to see far more of Spock than I ever thought I would get.

 

[Succubint]

I think Peck is doing a stellar job of capturing the essence of Spock in a particularly turbulent time in his youth. I think it's important for actors to be given room to give their interpretation of the character rather than just trying to mimic the originator of the character. Rainn Wilson is also doing a great job with Harry Mudd, in that regard. I feel that Alden Ehrenreich in Solo was not very strong in his portrayal, as a counter example.

Also, if you go watch the Ready Room interview with Peck, you will see how much thought, research and respect for Nimoy he put into reprising the role. He may not look and sound like a carbon copy of Nimoy (nor should he), but he brings something which, for many, really makes the character work for this pre-TOS era. The character of Spock is being enriched and given even more layers which will inform whom he becomes later.

 

[nutshell]

Not everyone is totally bad, there are 2 or 3 exceptions but the overwhelming majority of main (MAIN!) characters are either obnoxious or dull. It's hard to manage that even on a low budget so whoever is responsible for casting is just bad at their job.

Who was it? Have they casted before? If they casted before was it done well? Are there examples of them casting something in a good way? Because if there is, I don't know what happened now.

Do you have any specific examples we can discuss ?

 

[Hey Missy]

Well, I honestly do think Shazad Latif sucks the life out of most scenes he's in. His whiny voice doesn't help, and when he seems to dart his eyes around as if he's trying to read his next line on the cue card. Plus, his scraggly beard bothers me.

 

[Ovation]

I think Peck is doing a stellar job of capturing the essence of Spock in a particularly turbulent time in his youth. I think it's important for actors to be given room to give their interpretation of the character rather than just trying to mimic the originator of the character. Rainn Wilson is also doing a great job with Harry Mudd, in that regard. I feel that Alden Ehrenreich in Solo was not very strong in his portrayal, as a counter example.

Also, if you go watch the Ready Room interview with Peck, you will see how much thought, research and respect for Nimoy he put into reprising the role. He may not look and sound like a carbon copy of Nimoy (nor should he), but he brings something which, for many, really makes the character work for this pre-TOS era. The character of Spock is being enriched and given even more layers which will inform whom he becomes later.

If you watch the Cage, DSC Spock episodes, and Where No Man... in quick succession (I have), a pretty solid through line is present. A lot of people seem to be forgetting Peck is playing a Spock in his twenties—I was certainly not the same at 25-26 as I was at 33-34 (nor am I the same now at 51 as I was in my 30s). No reason to presume Spock would not be equally different in each stage.

 

[Vger23]

To each their own. I think he's doing a better job of playing Spock than Zachary Quinto.

I agree. I know there are a lot of fans of Quinto-Spock, but I find this Ethan Peck portrayal to be superior.

 

[Ovation]

I agree. I know there are a lot of fans of Quinto-Spock, but I find this Ethan Peck portrayal to be superior.

Peck is hewing a straighter line towards TOS Spock than Quinto did, but that makes sense as he’s playing a younger Spock Prime while Quinto is playing an alternate version with a notably different history. I think each does well with their respective appointed tasks/roles.

 

[SolarisOne]

To each their own. I think he's doing a better job of playing Spock than Zachary Quinto.

Well, considering Quinto was basically playing Sylar with pointed ears, that stands to reason.

 

[flandry84]

Doesn’t everyone want to strangle Pine?
Or maybe that’s just me.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Well then I don't like his spin on Spock.

See, now I feel as if he's channeling Leonard Nimoy while still making the part his own.

 

[skylark14]

I've been very happy with all the casting choices, although it took me a couple of episodes in to warm up to Burnham and Stamets. To me, this cast from the beginning has been the most appealing since the original. I've had trouble accepting, to larger and smaller degrees, characters/actors of TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT as "real." I even like the oft put-down Ash Tyler/Shazad Latif character. I agree with some that his Ash voice sounds like Ray Romano, and without the beard he has a somewhat weak chin, often gives off a lost quality. So what? I actually like that about him. Practically none of the Discovery crew, male or female, has a gorgeous face or body or perfect personality, and I love that about them all.

As to Quinto Spock v. Peck Spock, I tried really hard to like the Quinto version but always found it lacking something. When he was a bit younger and lankier, there was a small physical resemblance, but THE VOICE was entirely missing. I quite grieved its loss. From photos of Peck, I expected to find him wanting as well, but was surprised how quickly my mind was able to absorb and accept him as young Spock. Something about his performance does remind me of Nimoy often. I think it was a good idea to cover the lower part of his face with the beard, at least till we have fully accepted him as Spock, and I wouldn't mind him keeping it permanently. His voice has a very good timbre, close enough for me, and sometimes sounds like Nimoy and sometimes like Gregory Peck (who I expect would have made a good Spock himself).

 

[getumbuck]

Hard to say, on one had I hate nearly every character on this show aside from the captains of both season 1 and 2...............on the other hand do I place this blame on the actors or the writing? That is the question.

 

[mos6507]

Someone hasn't seen "The Cage", "Where No Man..." and much of early-TOS.

Someone hasn't seen Nimoy's interviews where he says unambiguously that Spock wasn't truly Spock in those episodes. And it's not necessary to construct a whole series to rationalize "check the circuit!" and the contradictory smile of "ah, yes, one of your earth emotions" and "The women!". They were growing pains in the production, period.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

To each their own. I think he's doing a better job of playing Spock than Zachary Quinto.

I thought Quinto was (as Spock might put it) "acceptable". He did a decent job but he didn't do anything to capture the essence of Spock enough to bring any new Spock-like characteristics to the table.

Peck on the other hand may play it less like "Leonard Nimoy as Spock", but the nuances of personality I see coming through Peck's performance of the unexplored mind of young Spock is something that I can certainly believe was part of the mindset and rational of what I think I Young Spock might have been like.

We really didn't get much of Spock in The Cage, so that era was a bit of a mystery in terms of what the character was like when he was like early in his Starfleet career, so it is up to the writers and Peck's performance to bring some of that past unknown Spock to the surface.

That performance has been particularly on display in these past two episodes, now that Spock is out of that funk he was in until he was "cured" in Light and Shadows and he can again speak with a clear mind -- espescially in The Red Angel. I thought the scene in The Red Angel between he an Burnham where they both came together to bridge the chasm between them was extremely well-done. I could feel a young Spock emanating from Peck.

Yeah -- some of it was new stuff we never seen from Nimoy or Quinto, but considering this is ten years prior to TOS Spock, I'm not surprised that there are certain aspects of Young Spock's personaility that we would not necessarily see in and older TOS Spock.

In fact, I would have been more surprised if the DSC Spock was exactly like TOS Spock, as if the character is incapable of growth and change.

 

[BillJ]

Someone hasn't seen Nimoy's interviews where he says unambiguously that Spock wasn't truly Spock in those episodes. And it's not necessary to construct a whole series to rationalize "check the circuit!" and the contradictory smile of "ah, yes, one of your earth emotions" and "The women!". They were growing pains in the production, period.

Yet gave his approval of Quinto’s more emotional version of the character. Period.