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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x08 - "If Memory Serves"

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Every planet has a North.
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Interesting note about those clearances for the background actors from "The Cage". I wonder how many instances involved contacting estate executors here.

https://twitter.com/ScottGamzon/status/1104172197155823617
Not just the Actors, the Director and Producers also have to be cleared.


Union contractual requirements are probably the biggest reason why CBS doesn't use more stuff from past Treks.
It costs a lot of money and man hours to do that stuff.
 
Oh, you know, yeah, the forest thing also didn’t work for me. Maybe Vulcan gets its oxygen from desert-dwelling microorganisms or something. But it had too much ocean and maybe cloud-cover and Canadian forest for me. At the very least, don’t call it the forest of “Vulcans Forge.”

Also, did I miss-see something, or was there a moon around Vulcan’s sister-planet in Burnham’s memory but no moon in Spock’s? Is this s subtle nod to problems with memory or my own misrememberence? I’ll watch the episode again mater and figure it out.

Kudos also to an episode than I’ve already watched a couple times and want to again. I usually haven’t felt that with this series, and I do like it.
 
Vulcan ought to have an ecosystem, true, but Michael was said to be in ShiKahr, and running away into the Vulcan Forge. Both shown and stated to be desert areas in previous series. We've seen the whole city of ShiKahr surrounded by desert.

They shouldn't have specified Michael being in a desert region if they weren't prepared to show it.
In TAS Shikahr had trees in the surrounding hills. Maybe they lived in the 'burbs.
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To circle back to the trauma/argument for just a moment (sorry if this is dead horse beating) -- I can go along with it because of how young Spock is here. Five? And here's the person he can most be himself with, without disappointing Dad or having Mom tell him to go back to emulating Dad. Someone who he can talk to about bullying. Someone who is obviously also an outsider and so he can relate to her.

And then she cuts him to the quick.

And then later, as adults, they are "too busy" or "out of range" or "it slipped (my) mind" or whatever. People can find dozens of excuses not to kiss and make up.
I just rewatched the episode and I can now buy in the Michael/Spock conflict much more than before. The same incident affected both of them in very different ways. For Michael, it was the guilt. But, for Spock it was very different. It wasn't anger or not understanding. Spock felt EMBARRASED. He idolized her and told her that he loved her. Quite mbarrassing for a being who is dedicated to logic. She is a reminder for who he used to be and he's embarrassed for his younger self. As he said, she was the catalyst and he appreciated how she showed him the weakness of emotions. There's probably also the fear that reconnecting with her will pull him back to being more emotional. As we see later in life, such as with Christine, that's an ongoing struggle for him. It's like putting desserts in front of someone who is dieting!

So, I can now buy into it. But not because Spock was so pissed off at her for so long. Rather the event sent him in a new direction, he was also embarrassed by how he was, and he didn't want to get pulled back to being like that.
 
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I just rewatched the episode and I can now buy in the Michael/Spock conflict much more than before. The same incident affected both of them in very different ways. For Michael, it was the guilt. But, for Spock it was very different. It wasn't anger or not understand. Spock felt EMBARRASED. He idolized her and told her that he loved her. Embarrassing for a being who is dedicated to logic. She is a reminder for who he used to be and he's embarrassed for his younger self. As he said, she was the catalyst and he appreciated how she showed him the weakness of emotions. There's probably also the fear that reconnecting with her will pull him back to being more emotional. As we see later in life, such as Christine, that's an ongoing struggle for him. It's like putting desserts in front of someone who is dieting!

So, I can now buy into it. But not because Spock was so pissed off at her for so long. Rather the event sent him in a new direction, he was also embarrassed by how he was, and he didn't want to get pulled back to being like that.
Leonard H. McCoy, M.D., recognized expert in psychology, especially space psychology…
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…agrees.
 
It's just so crazy how literally everyone on this show besides SMG radiates charisma like a broken EPS conduit! Oh well, at least she's not the black hole of charm that was Captain Boreathan Archer.
 
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