I think the second statement most certainly does. Did I need to add a "wink wink" to it?
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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I think the second statement most certainly does. Did I need to add a "wink wink" to it?
I think I'm confused by your facetiousness.
How's this: combining the two statements...
1. we, the viewers, have to pretend that they are the same because the showrunners told us they're in the same universe.
2. They said "Here's the Cage, and here's Discovery. Seamless transition, amiright?"
The showrunners told us they're in the same universe by showing footage from the Cage next to footage from Discovery. No upgrades to the Enterprise, no swapping out bridge modules, no refits, no change in uniforms, no alternate timelines. We, the viewers, follow suit by imagining they look the same.
Oh, I understand what you're saying. I just don't quite agree with the 'seamless transition' part. And I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic with that statement.
If you have to pretend, it's not seamless, right?
Pretty sure that's sarcasm.
Yes, the "seamless" part was sarcasm. I should have added a "winky" emoticon.
I'm not going to pretend TOS and DSC look the same. I think "seamless" is the wrong word for the transition from the TOS Footage to the Discovery Footage. It was symmetrical by zeroing in on Pike.
I fear Bernd Schneider should be placed on suicide watch, but I'm on-board with this. TOS happened. You can still watch it and presume the relevant events have impact on Discovery and beyond. They're not going to reboot Space Seed. You just don't have to pretend blinkly lights and 50's style switches are the future of UI design, or that a motorized salt shaker is a high tech medical scanner. It's in the show, but it really doesn't matter what it looked like.
It elevates the story and the characters, as it should. The nitpicking, as much as some around here love trying to piece together the impossible, is going to have to evolve into something else. Presuming everything on screen should be taken as literally true and universally applicable will have to die. Thank Q for that. That never held up all that well to begin with, and I reference the bevy of discontinuity articles on Bernd's site as proof.
Season 1 didn't even resemble the show Season 1 was supposed to be originally. It was a hot mess of a production and as poor as it was overall it's surprising it wasn't worse.
S2E8 was probably the most enjoyable hour of Trek I've had in almost 15 years. It's come a long way.
Well he deserved it because most of his ideas were terrible.
Let's hear about "The Cage" recap from the show's editor:
https://twitter.com/ScottGamzon/status/1104114590000996352
https://twitter.com/ScottGamzon/status/1104114590000996352
I think we should give Fuller the benefit of the doubt, since we never saw his vision. We saw some parts of his vision, run through revisions by others.
If Discovery has a problem, it's too many chefs in the kitchen. We're still getting bizarre mismatch things like Pike ripping out the holocomms on the Enterprise coupled with ultra-advanced Section 31 ships. It's like one writer is in reconciliation mode but others are pushing in the opposite direction, and there's nobody filtering the oddities out.
If Discovery has a problem, it's too many chefs in the kitchen. We're still getting bizarre mismatch things like Pike ripping out the holocomms on the Enterprise coupled with ultra-advanced Section 31 ships. It's like one writer is in reconciliation mode but others are pushing in the opposite direction, and there's nobody filtering the oddities out.
On the other hand they may be giving fans permission to just reject the DSC aesthetic and just picture things with a TOS layer of paint. "Hey, this is how we're depicting this era of Star Trek history and we have our in-studio reasons for doing so but hey, here's a bone. We acknowledge the old TOS look as still kind of official and definitely canon at least as regards 'The Cage.' If you don't like our set and ship designs just imagine they look like what you see in the old '60s episodes."
I know, it's a reach but they definitely rubber stamped the TOS look by showing footage from "The Cage" as canonical events, so all I can assume is they no longer care and are willing to go with both design aesthetics, at least when it comes to flashback sequences. I know it doesn't make sense but if this is the best they're willing to do...eh.
Face it, unless there's a big design twist near the end of the series we won't be seeing TOS tech and set designs, not unless CBS and Paramount straighten out all this internecine IP crap and decide what they can and can't show or replicate.
One More Time..
There is no "IP Crap" ...
CBS owns ALL of the Trek Assets, Paramount is now a Licensee of Trek and thus of CBS.
The only reason CBS is reluctant to delve deeper into using past images and footage now is because They don't want to have to spend the time and money getting releases and permissions from all the actors and production people from past productions due to union contractual restrictions.
Which is essentially what the Editor of the latest episode said had to happen in tweet #5 here...
https://twitter.com/ScottGamzon/status/1104114590000996352
His assistant essentially had to go through all of the clips/pics that They wanted to use and identify everyone involved and then contact them or their representative, get permission to use their image and find out how much it would cost.
(not a job I would relish having)
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