The "Kaminar Special". Roast B'aul with a side of Kelpian threat ganglia (limited time only, act now!) for 2 slips of gold pressed latinum.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x06 - "The Sound of Thunder"
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The "Kaminar Special". Roast B'aul with a side of Kelpian threat ganglia (limited time only, act now!) for 2 slips of gold pressed latinum.
Maybe I’m missing something about Ash. After he was revealed to be a Klingon wearing a human skin suit, and then chose to live among the Klingons following L’Rell’s handwavy voodoo, why would Starfleet trust him for anything, even information about the Klingons? He seems like someone Section 31 would be torturing, not posting aboard Starfleet’s most secretive ship.
Correct me if I am wrong but Section 31 seem spooked by the Klingons so any and all help seems to be what they want.
I would think that would make them trust Ash less, not more. Even if Starfleet buys the story that he was a true sleeper agent, completely unaware of his programming, why would they believe that L'Rell really deprogrammed him? And then he went to live among the Klingons! After that, I'd think everyone would assume, "Yup, he's a Klingon."
I think you're right about the story's intentions, but I'm not getting how concern about the Klingons puts him on Discovery. If they're worried about the Klingons, why not devote him to recording every single thing he knows about the Klingons?
My impression is they recruited him in part because he has certain skills (someone who looks human who speaks Klingon fluently and knows a great deal about their culture). But for the most part it was because he had absolutely nowhere else to go, which gave them tremendous leverage over him in the recruitment process. It was an offer he couldn't refuse.
I can buy that Section 31 was interested in him, but I think his first (and possibly only) assignment would be with an incredibly painful memory extraction device.
Is he supposed to be doing something Klingon-related on the Discovery, or is he just a trusted Section 31 agent now?
Is he supposed to be doing something Klingon-related on the Discovery, or is he just a trusted Section 31 agent now?
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It appears we may be seeing an evolution of Section 31; they may not be the genocidal organization of Sloan's time yet.
We've got regular Starfleet for that. Even Sarek's in on it.
Another fan of Saru for Captain, only because Terran males dominating Starfleet, especially as top dog (all those TOS guys, Marcus, Cartwright), is boring. In universe they should be reported to the EOC.
the Ethiopian Olympic Commitee?
Is this for certain? I don't think we have any official indication that Mount won't return.
I don't really read or watch Harry Potter, so you lost me a little here.
I agree there's no reason that it can't include Burnham and Saru. I just have no interest in that whatsoever. Burnham works uniquely as a lead of a Trek show who is not a captain, which was the entire point to begin with. Saru does nothing for me as a commanding officer. That doesn't mean I don't like the character. I just don't think he needs to be a Captain. I liked Counselor Troi...that didn't mean I wanted her to be a Captain.
The only convincing reason is that it's not necessarily something I care to see. Has nothing to do with meeting standards of the past. Just a personal preference. I'm a human...I'd rather see humans in the captain positon...maybe some diverse human representation next time around.
Counselor Troi wasn't a command career officer, though, that's not a good comparison. Saru obviously is on that track and he's been the first officer for a while now. Like Riker, the obvious aim is to become captain in the future. He has already expressed his desire to advance to Burnham. It's part of the reason why he was so resentful about her presence on the Shenzhou and how he was denied the chance to be Georgiou's 1st officer and learn about leadership from her.
I don't think Saru is going to be captain yet, but his journey is clearly on that trajectory, narratively speaking. His story is about going from a desperate refugee with nothing but his determination to become something more, to a valued first officer on an unusual ship, to...hopefully something even more inspiring.
We've had humans in the captain's spot ad nauseum. I think it would help the franchise to branch out more in terms of role models at the top.
I don't think Saru is going to be captain yet, but his journey is clearly on that trajectory, narratively speaking. His story is about going from a desperate refugee with nothing but his determination to become something more, to a valued first officer on an unusual ship, to...hopefully something even more inspiring.
We've had humans in the captain's spot ad nauseum. I think it would help the franchise to branch out more in terms of role models at the top.
I think it's a perfectly good comparison. It's a character I like (like Saru) who I have no interest in seeing as Captain (like Saru).
If they're going to diversify the Captains Chair, let's do it with a human role model, not an alien role model.
In the past I would have said that it was a bad idea to make the Captain an alien because as the lead character, an alien is less identifiable to the audience than a human would be.
However, in the case of Discovery, the lead character isn't a Captain. Therefore, if Star Trek were to ever explore an alien captain, Discovery would be the place to do it.
However, in the case of Discovery, the lead character isn't a Captain. Therefore, if Star Trek were to ever explore an alien captain, Discovery would be the place to do it.
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That's a fair take.
I'd still (personally) rather see a human for the reasons you listed in your first paragraph. I always looked at "The Captain" as a relatable role model from a very young age, so I'm conditioned a little there. I don't like the distraction of make-up and every 3 episodes enduring some inane jabbering about Pon Far, Klingon Honor, threat ganglia or positronic relays. Make them easily relatable and immediately reflective of human elements.
And, as far as Saru's situation goes, I like the character, but I don't respect him as a leader. We all have different takes on what we want from leaders. Saru is not someone I would be inspired by.
OK the blue plate special at the Kelpian Inn is roast ba'ul with a side order of threat ganglia, its tendril liking good.
I'm leaning more towards them being extinct and it's their technology itself continuing the culling, and all the red dots we saw were false bio signatures.
I'm leaning more towards them being extinct and it's their technology itself continuing the culling, and all the red dots we saw were false bio signatures.
Don't think about it too hard, bringing Ash and Culber back was the writers not so subtly saying "Lets just all conveniently ignore season 1 okay"
Nope.
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