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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x05 - "Saints of Imperfection"

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One could also argue that Harry Kim after "Deadlock(VOY)" is also not the "real" Harry Kim since the Harry that arrived in the Delta Quadrant in 2371 was killed when Voyager was duplicated by the spatial scission and his exact duplicate replaced him aboard the original Voyager for the remainder of the series.
That's his answer when a date asks "What's the most interesting thing about yourself?".
 
This is true. Neither man is in his original body and at best is a painfully-assembled replica of their old self.

One could also argue that Harry Kim after "Deadlock(VOY)" is also not the "real" Harry Kim since the Harry that arrived in the Delta Quadrant in 2371 was killed when Voyager was duplicated by the spatial scission and his exact duplicate replaced him aboard the original Voyager for the remainder of the series.
That episode also showed us that no matter what Universe Harry comes from, he's still stuck as an Ensign throughout most of his career.
;)
 
Apparently the magical effects of spatial scissions can't make an officer any more impressive at his job.
 
One could also argue that Harry Kim after "Deadlock(VOY)" is also not the "real" Harry Kim since the Harry that arrived in the Delta Quadrant in 2371 was killed when Voyager was duplicated by the spatial scission and his exact duplicate replaced him aboard the original Voyager for the remainder of the series.
See also-- Chief O'Brien post- "Visionary".
 
Yep. Although in that case it was the exact same O'Brien from just a few hours into his own future, so at most an alternate timeline O'Brien replaced himself from earlier in the day. With Harry it was literally a quantum duplicate created from scratch at the moment the phenomenon came into contact with Voyager.
 
That episode also showed us that no matter what Universe Harry comes from, he's still stuck as an Ensign throughout most of his career.
;)

I always wondered what MU Harry Kim was up to.

Probably stuck in an agonizer booth for eternity after his commanding officer got sick of how he could never get a lock, honestly.
 
Saints of Imperfection
The fifth episode of season 2.Discovery still chasing Spock, but it turns out to be Mirror Georgiou. There are two threads through the episode, rescuing Tilly from the Mycelial Network and Section 31. It seems Pike has history with the commanding agent, Laland, but more on that below. These threads come together better than the previous episode, especially as the immediate Tilly/Spore storyline seems to be finished. There's also Pike picking up on the history between Burnham and Mirror Georgiou.
(He seems to know it's not the same Georgiou he went to the Academy with.) The rescuing Tilly storyline was interesting. Using the Spore Drive to do a partial jump into the Mycelial Network to look for her was an inspired idea. However, I'm not sure what to make of their finding Culbur there (and him being the 'Monster' May was telling Tilly about), I'm sure there will be more in future episodes about this. However, the effects of Discovery slowly slipping further into the Network very well done.
As was the depiction of the network's forest. The tension as Discovery fell further into the network was expertly portrayed, especially when it comes to the scenes on the Bridge as the bridge crew retreated. Then there is the other plot thread; Section 31. The Pike/Laland scenes are appropriately filled with tension, as are the scenes with Burnham and Tyler. He doesn't tell her why he left Qo'noS, but then I wasn't really expecting him to. But the tension is mainly that Pike doesn't agree with Section 31's methods.
(He is much like Bashir will be in that.) It seems that he has had experience with Laland's exploits in the past. That Admiral Cornwell wants them to cooperate in trying to solve the Red Angel mystery is quite reasonable. (But how did she get there? It's clear she wasn't on the Section 31 ship earlier when they were helping Discovery rescue Tilly and Culbur.) But it is a source of tension for the rest of the season. It certainly makes things more interesting. Overall this episode is rather good, one of the best so far. 8.5/10.
 
Section 31 is officially part of Starfleet Intelligence.

I like see section 31 has communicators a century more advanced
 
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Something calling itself section 31 is part of Star Fleet.

It's part of the "original" starfleet charter, so why wouldn't the group have always existed, per the specificities of the charter that asked for it to exist?
 
Something calling itself section 31 is part of Star Fleet.

It's part of the "original" starfleet charter, so why wouldn't the group have always existed, per the specificities of the charter that asked for it to exist?
Article 14 section 31 of the Starfleet charter allowed for the creation of an agency with broad powers during a time of "extreme emergency". The problem is, once the emergency is over, someone has to dismantle the agency, and there's always going to be someone who will claim that there is, or will manufacture, an emergency somewhere.
 
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Article 14 section 31 of the Starfleet charter allowed for the creation of an agency with broad powers during a time of "extreme emergency". The problem is, once the emergency is over, someone has to dismantle the agency, and there's always going to be someone who will claim that there is, or manufacture, an emergency somewhere.
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Article 14 section 31 of the Starfleet charter allowed for the creation of an agency with broad powers during a time of "extreme emergency". The problem is, once the emergency is over, someone has to dismantle the agency, and there's always going to be someone who will claim that there is, or manufacture, an emergency somewhere.

Even though all of the focus has been on Trump's wall, the US has over 25 National Emergencies active at this time.
 
Article 14 section 31 of the Starfleet charter allowed for the creation of an agency with broad powers during a time of "extreme emergency". The problem is, once the emergency is over, someone has to dismantle the agency, and there's always going to be someone who will claim that there is, or will manufacture, an emergency somewhere.

You mean like Crocodiles showing up on Cestus 3?
 
"I hold the Starfleet record for not being promoted past the rank of Ensign."

Woman: "NEXT!!!"
Makes you wonder... in the pocket universe shown in "Non Sequitor," does Ensign Danny Byrd suffer the same fate of forever being doomed to the rank of Ensign? ;)
 
I liked this episode. The scene with Tilly threatening the "monster" with her type 3 phaser, which is more powerful than the type one or type two, hence the type 3 name had me cracking up. I frequent the AICN reviews and Herc mentioned a character not seen since 2018 was to appear, so I was convinced the "monster" was Captain Lorca. Much to my surprise, it was actually Dr. Culber. I was glad to see him again, and I was pretty heartbroken when they got to the cube chamber and Culber's arm disappeared. I thought they might actually leave him to die in the mycellial network. Thankfully, they found a way to bring him back. But, I still kept waiting for Lorca to show up, since they kept making it a point to mention that the network "breaks atoms down and reconstitutes them" and that atoms "are neither created nor destroyed" (also considering the fact he died in a super-micellial reactor). So, Lorca may not have been brought back this week, but I fully expect him to be revealed as a part of the Red Angel arc.
 
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