James Kirk in "Discovery"?

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  1. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Spock already has three murders to his credit, so Kirk is really going to have to up his game! :guffaw:
     
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  2. Paul Weaver

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    Kirk needs to get his reputation as a ladies man
     
  3. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It's been widely reported that the Enterprise bridge will be seen. Also, we've seen some of the interiors already (corridor and Spock's quarters).
     
  4. Lord Garth

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    I think he would've gotten it about 10 years before this. ;)
     
  5. Tuskin38

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    Well those are redressed Discovery/Shenzhou sets.
     
  6. DaveyNY

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    It's really weird how they expressly pointed out that Spock was HALF-VULCAN. :wtf:
     
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  7. WarpFactorZ

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    The admirals of the United Earth Space Probe Agency are well known racists.
     
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  8. DaveyNY

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    Must be, cause they did it TWICE in that report.
    Perhaps Spock even signed his name that way?
    :vulcan:
     
  9. fireproof78

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    What about Gary?
     
  10. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Gary gets his turn later on. :shifty:
     
  11. fireproof78

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    True. But, given how much Finnegan tortured poor Kirk I'm thinking he will have to wait until later in his career to start catching up to Spock.
     
  12. Nerys Myk

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    That just means it's serious business. But not as serious as a full Vulcan signing off on it.
     
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    This just demonstrates the human bias at the time. If Spock were at the Vulcan Science Academy he would have to sign as "half human."
     
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    Starfleet was still solely under United Earth which is a human based organization up to the mid-first season of TOS, when it was transferred to the Federation (when did TOS take place, 23rd century or 22nd century). Aliens (and half-aliens) are rare, or should be rare, serving with humans in the CAGE, DSC and still rare in TOS. Long-term environmental (and language) concerns probably limit most alien postings to earth based starfleet and ships. Even Spock, who is half-human, finds the Enterprise uncomfortably cold as he finally confesses to McCoy in "The Deadly Years". Vulcans will find it too high in O2 or high pressure, and too cold (per "Amok Time"). Andorians will find it too hot (ENT retcon). Tellarites too...clean smelling or too high gravity judging by how weak and unstable the ambassador looked in "Journey to Babel". Short-term, you can tolerate it, but long-term can be, if not uncomfortable, hazardous to your health.
     
  15. LJones41

    LJones41 Commodore Commodore

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    Dear God, I hope not. Having Pike and Spock on for Season 2 is bad enough. Perhaps I can tolerate a one episode appearance and nothing else.
     
  16. Tim Thomason

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    Spock and Pike recommended that "no human" can visit Talos IV. Send Saru and Linus down to the planet. Maybe Spock can go too, but he has to leave halfway through the mission.
     
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    But it didn't include ... HUMAN Captain Christopher Pike.
    :whistle:
     
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  18. Henoch

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    Addition thoughts: I don't think the Enterprise has a dial-a-gravity in quarters. It seems to have gravity control in engineered areas, such as in small environmental chambers (in Med Bay, "Lights of Zetar") and maybe the flight deck (on/off?). The rest of the ship is all set at a gravity setting. Even when the turbolift fails, it goes into free fall implying the whole ship is at gravity.
     
  19. CorporalCaptain

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    Unfortunately for that idea, 2001 was released in 1968, years after the TOS bridge had been designed.

    Principle photography on 2001 began almost a year after "The Cage" had been screened and months after principle photography on "Where No Man Has Gone Before" had wrapped.

    The TOS bridge could never have been "inspired" by 2001.
     
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  20. Timo

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    Then again, the walla relating to exercises or damage includes the "Gravity at .8" bit. We don't observe this in practice, which is sort of the point - but as a corollary to that, we would never get good evidence against cabins having adjustable gravity, exactly because the adjusting would always have to be unobservable, for VFX/SFX expenses reasons.

    ENT had localized gravity failures extending to things as private as cabin shower stalls, it seems. Sure, the ship might have been hardwired in a way that would make it difficult for T'Pol to maintain higher gravity in her quarters - but future ships would not be deliberately handicapped that way.

    The Discovery has "piecemeal" written all over her hull, and could accommodate fairly exotic guests or crew members (and already has). And the VFX/SFX for showing significant gravity manipulation would finally be affordable, in moderation.

    As for Spock's "half-Vulcan" status in official correspondence, that's sort of super-significant in a document discussing the quarantining of a world inhabited by powerful telepaths...

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