Captain Marvel (2019)

[kirk55555]

Adapt means change, you’ll learn that when you grow up.

God forbid anyone want to see a property they enjoy get adapted. No one has to compromise what they want to see because some people are apathetic to everything. People that just take whatever shit that gets made and complains when people point out that its shit are the same people who kept Michael Bay drowning in money.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yeah, and I guess I made up Mar-Vell not being in the movie, and her getting brainwashed at of my rear. I also must have been really creative to invent her getting powers through weird blood bullshit. Oh wait, thats all stuff we know happened through trailers, and all stuff that is a giant fuck you to the actual character and source material.



You see, only people who don't know shit about the original Captain Marvel think that there are no comics where Billy wasn't a perfect goodie two shoes pre-New 52.

Read Jerry Ordway's The Power of Shazam. It is THE definitive version of the character, where Billy is a naturally good person, not an angsty shithead, but definitely has flaws and problems and screws up sometimes. A character can have problems and be flawed without the flaws being that they're a shithead while still being heroic. It just takes a good writer. Actually, Grant Morrison did it decently once, so it actually only needs a mediocre or better writer.



Making Carol Danvers an amnesiac tool of the Kree is the polar opposite of what the character actually is. So, in that way its just as wrong as the examples I used.



We know what happens to Fake carol, and it doesn't match what happened in the source material, and changes the context so much that it ruins everything (it also takes away all of her own stuff, but I guess we can't let the female hero be the driving force of her story, or let her do things like create her costume, at least with Wonder Woman her armor is an Amazon thing).



I'd put any DCEU movie over Captain Marvel when it comes to looks and CG, and even the one good DCEU film (Wonder Woman) was weak in the CG department, much less the awful snyder films and mediocre Suicide Squad.




You are completely wrong. I HATE all of the Snyder DCEU movies, and the only DCEU movie I think is outright great is Wonder Woman. Suicide Squad is a tolerable mindless action movie if you pretend it isn't a comic adaptation (otherwise its godawful), and Justice League was a meh film kind of saved by Whedon making Superman actually feel like Superman and overall toning down the Snyder bullshit. Aquaman looks good, but its not out yet.

But Man of steel and Batman v Superman? Those movies are offensively awful, for many reasons including turning Batman into The Punisher with a cape. In comparison, I'm a huge MCU fan who didn't believe they had a single bad film until Spider-Man Homecoming came out, and even after Homecoming and Ant-Man & The Wasp I still think they're mostly a hit maker, having 2 (and soon to be 3) bad movies isn't a bad percentage at this point.



Yeah, god forbid an adaptation actually adapt something. That would be silly.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Yeah, god forbid an adaptation actually adapt something.

A long post of whinging. Carol got her powers from Kree tech back in the comics. She had memory issues when she first became Ms Marvel. Your list of complaints are either completely wrong or just boil down to 'it is not exactly like the comic'. The movie is an adaptation no matter how often you say it isn't which is another thing you clearly do not understand.

God forbid anyone want to see a property they enjoy get adapted. No one has to compromise what they want to see because some people are apathetic to everything. People that just take whatever shit that gets made and complains when people point out that its shit are the same people who kept Michael Bay drowning in money.

No.

 

[Awesome Possum]

God forbid anyone want to see a property they enjoy get adapted. No one has to compromise what they want to see because some people are apathetic to everything. People that just take whatever shit that gets made and complains when people point out that its shit are the same people who kept Michael Bay drowning in money.

Don’t imply that anyone else is upset, it’s just you. The reaction to the movie is almost universally positive, except for pathetic losers who can’t stand any movie staring a woman.

 

[kirk55555]

Don’t imply that anyone else is upset, it’s just you. The reaction to the movie is almost universally positive, except for pathetic losers who can’t stand any movie staring a woman.

Don't even start with that. I love Wonder Woman, and most of my favorite heroes are female heroes. Hating one female lead movie (for reasons that have nothing to do with the lead being female) doesn't mean anything.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Don’t imply that anyone else is upset, it’s just you.

Well, Kirk and that guy from the Power Rangers board.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Don't even start with that. I love Wonder Woman, and most of my favorite heroes are female heroes.

I never said you didn’t. Maybe you should think before reacting.

Back on topic, I love that Fury is a cat lover. That’s how I’m going to picture him from now on. He just goes from total hardass to total softy when he lays eye on a cat. We’re lucky HYDRA didn’t know about his only weakness.

 

[kirk55555]

Sometimes I worry that my love for the Marvel Cinematic Universe makes me overlook some of its flaws, then I see people exist that will support anything they do to the point of just attacking anyone who disagrees and I realize that I probably have the right amount of love for the MCU

I never said you didn’t. Maybe you should think before reacting.

You just said I don't like movies starring women. So, you know, maybe you shouldn't blatantly lie when a post on the very same page proves that you did...

 

[Guy Gardener]

It might have been in Infinity, 5-ish years ago, but all the Kree based Avengers switched sides like Manchurian candidates, in the middle of a fight.

 

[Starscream2112]

They just released pictures of the toys. Why is the cat in shackles?
https://www.comingsoon.net/extras/news/1015315-hasbro-reveals-first-captain-marvel-products

 

[Gov Kodos]

What Possum said:

Don’t imply that anyone else is upset, it’s just you. The reaction to the movie is almost universally positive, except for pathetic losers who can’t stand any movie staring a woman.

Nothing there about you, only to the general negative opinions you can find, quite easily, on Youtube, for instance. She is correct.

You just said I don't like movies starring women. So, you know, maybe you shouldn't blatantly lie when a post on the very same page proves that you did...

Nope, wrong again.

Captain marvel looks like a great adaptation of 50 years of comics.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

@kirk55555
We don’t attack you because you disagree. We are either at stage I where we are just profoundly irritated by your unwarranted hyperbole and unfounded assertions or we’re at stage II where we just get irritated when you start your rant before our popcorn is ready.

 

[kirk55555]

@kirk55555
We don’t attack you because you disagree. We are either at stage I where we are just profoundly irritated by your unwarranted hyperbole and unfounded assertions or we’re at stage II where we just get irritated when you start your rant before our popcorn is ready.

i like how basically all the stuff I complain about is provable by trailer footage, but is somehow an "unfounded assertion". Also, I'm not hyperbolic, although I suppose people that either outright hate the source material or are just extremely apathetic might see it that way when they see fans of the source material sticking up for it over the crap adaptation.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Sometimes I worry that my love for the Marvel Cinematic Universe makes me overlook some of its flaws, then I see people exist that will support anything they do to the point of just attacking anyone who disagrees and I realize that I probably have the right amount of love for the MCU



You just said I don't like movies starring women. So, you know, maybe you shouldn't blatantly lie when a post on the very same page proves that you did...

Reading comprehension is your friend. I said pathetic losers, you are an individual upset over insignificant changes. If you can’t tell the difference between an individual and other groups of people, I really don’t know what to tell you,

You see, to think every single thing is an attack on you, but it isn’t. Get over yourself. You should probably stop trying to make the thread about you and your anger issues.

 

[kirk55555]

Reading comprehension is your friend. I said pathetic losers, you are an individual upset over insignificant changes. You think every single thing is an attack on you, but it isn’t. Get over yourself.

You were obviously including me in the group, and you were so obvious about it that I don't know why you're pretending that what you posted meant anything else.

 

[Awesome Possum]

You were obviously including me in the group, and you were so obvious about it that I don't know why you're pretending that what you posted meant anything else.

Since you’re already dragged this into TNZ, maybe you should take this there instead derailing two threads.

 

[Gov Kodos]

You were obviously including me in the group, and you were so obvious about it that I don't know why you're pretending that what you posted meant anything else.

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Captain Marvel. I want to see more of Annette Benning who seems to be playing a pivotal part in Carol's story.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yes, everyone except Kirk hates the source material. We are blasphemers for not taking the holy writ of Roy Thomas, Gerry Conway and Chris Claremont as holy gospel-canon and embracing the heathen Feige.

 

[Awesome Possum]

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Captain Marvel. I want to see more of Annette Benning who seems to be playing a pivotal part in Carol's story.

I want her to be the Supreme Intelligence and end up a giant head.

 

[fireproof78]

i like how basically all the stuff I complain about is provable by trailer footage, but is somehow an "unfounded assertion". Also, I'm not hyperbolic, although I suppose people that either outright hate the source material or are just extremely apathetic might see it that way when they see fans of the source material sticking up for it over the crap adaptation.

Because an adaptation does not mean faithful adherence to 50 plus years of comic book history. It literally means to change as a facet of putting in a new medium. Otherwise, I could claim Adam West as the original Batman and all others as blasphemy (don't tempt me-I might).

You don't have to like it, but it's not a personal attack, nor an attack upon the source material. It's different people engaging with the material in different ways. IDIC and all that jazz.

Yes, everyone except Kirk hates the source material. We are blasphemers for not taking the holy writ of Roy Thomas, Gerry Conway and Chris Claremont as holy gospel-canon and embracing the heathen Feige.

Yup