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How do you rate Arachnids in the UK?


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Ok... no real thoughts yet about the episode other than it was a good, proper “Monster of the Week” episode. I did like that the “You’re that bloke” interaction and at first thought he meant Chris Noth, and not some political statement.

But.... I have a question... Is it me and my new glasses, or does the new series look different than what came before? Have they upgraded from film to digital or something? The CE and DT eras looked almost bargin basement when it came to visuals, but now the show looks like an episode of Law and Order UK by comparison vs the MS era.

I’m sorry if this sounds stupid but I almost find it off-putting.
 
I hate to say it but Jodie's Doctor is starting to feel very One Note. It's important to add that it's the writing and not her that's at fault but all she's being given to play is the Goofy side of Matt Smith with occasional touches of Angry Tennant.
 
Ok... no real thoughts yet about the episode other than it was a good, proper “Monster of the Week” episode. I did like that the “You’re that bloke” interaction and at first thought he meant Chris Noth, and not some political statement.

But.... I have a question... Is it me and my new glasses, or does the new series look different than what came before? Have they upgraded from film to digital or something? The CE and DT eras looked almost bargin basement when it came to visuals, but now the show looks like an episode of Law and Order UK by comparison vs the MS era.

I’m sorry if this sounds stupid but I almost find it off-putting.
They're using different lenses with the aim of making it more 'filmic'.
 
I gave that one an “8”.

Pretty good, creepy (who’s having spider nightmares tonight?).

The American Businessman was as subtle as a baseball bat to the mouth.

Nice ending, we’re on to adventure!
 
I liked it. Spiders were creepy and I liked that they were just spiders and their increased size was affecting their behavior. I continue to love the Doctor’s overflowing empathy, treating them as the poor confused animals that they were. Especially the poor mother spider who had grown too big to breathe.
 
Lots of planets have a Noth.

Guns are bad! For some reason... I get that Noth is supposed to be an Ugly American type but it was hard to generate much sympathy for killing a dying and apparently suffering spider. Maybe because I am a said American but I don't really see the problem with at least arming yourself for self-defense in such a situation even if you do everything you can not to use them.

A better Trump move would have been to selfishly try to retreat to the panic room and lock himself in after everyone left agreeing to lure the spiders there. Of course, something would go wrong with it trapping him within and leading to his demise. Either that or to take credit for everyone's actions but really the story just sort of fizzled out at the end.

I didn't catch last week's episode yet but does there seems to be a pattern with the nasty guys walking away?

The FX were good, and the character beats were nice but in the end the title was the cleverest thing about this episode.
 
OK this was an alright episode but nothing special, in fact it felt rather ordinary. It made my mind jump back a billion years to the episode "The Green Death" and pollution makes monster mutants, although not as much fun as that episode.

The "not Trump" guy was kind of useless and I wanted him to be Spider chow. The family parts with Yaz's family were pretty much how I had expected them to be, it wasn't bad it just was.

Overall 6/10


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Was it just me or the end of the episode when "not Trump" left the episode they tried to make it look like "he'll be back" and there was ominous music? or was that just my imagination?
 
Not a bad episode. It was an interesting change of pace that there was no outside alien threat or tech involved. Not even a *real* bad guy. I'm sad that there was no quip or reference to Metebelis III at all though (Unless there was and I missed it.)

The ending seemed rather rushed though, and the "morality" seemed a bit off this week. What happens to the spiders in the panic room? What about the spiders out in Sheffield that didn't go back to the nest? Is putting the mama spider out of it's misery quickly, worse than letting it suffer and slowly suffocate to death?

My favorite part of the episode was Ryan making shadow puppets in the background, while the Doctor is talking to the scientist in her lab. That got quite a big laugh out of me.
 
I'm sad that there was no quip or reference to Metebelis III at all though (Unless there was and I missed it.)
Yeah, I was disappointed by a lack of reference, too. But then I was disappointed there was no reference to those spiders in "Turn Left," so I guess I'm use to it now.

My favorite part of the episode was Ryan making shadow puppets in the background, while the Doctor is talking to the scientist in her lab. That got quite a big laugh out of me.
Yes! I forgot to mention this. The best part was how the camera didn't draw attention to it and no one mentioned it. The moment simply happened in the background. :lol:
 
Some what conflicted on this epsiode. It was great! But it was also fluff! Somewhere between a 7 and an 8. If we can get "average" episodes like this on the regular, we're in for a real cracker of a season. Definitely the second strongest of the season thus far. Good balance of characters, great moments. Wish Yaz was given more to do. Kinda felt like we were learning more about her dad, sis and mum than her to a degree. Noth was great with what he was given, which wasn't much. He's essentially Mark Cuban? Ryan is great, felt like we're getting some much needed movement on him Graham. Graham, as ever, is the show stealer. Jodie is great. Love everything. Definitely a 5, 8, 10 vibe, but her empathy and her kindness are shining through. She cares, she helps. We could use a meaty emotional episode for the Doctor though. Was kinda hoping the Doctor would be a little more put off by the spiders considering they're one of the odd, motley crew who have killed one of her iterations in the past. (Seriously, Cybermen and the Doctor's own people are the prime motivators!)

And I absolutely loved the new time vortex!

And wanting "Tea at Yas''". The Doctor has always latched onto friends like a drowning fish, but it's at it's most apparent here since Rose. Having almost given up as Twelve, Thirteen is clinging to anything that gives her hope like a lifejacket.

Really like this reading of it. Her disappointment when they leave at the beginning is so natural and in character. It also reminds me a lot of the Four to Five transition, an older man meditating on death who is pushing people away leads into a fresh-faced, jubilant blonde who immediately has a dozen friends.

I think next episode he should stay on the Tardis while the rest have an adventure without him just to give them a chance as he's stolen almost every episode so far.

Hahahaha. It's really something how enjoyable Graham is and how deep his character is. I really responded to the Ten/Wilf relationship and I'm finding Graham is already my favorite from The Who Crew.

Thirteen's tenure is shaping up to be much more like Classic Who than any of the series up 'til now.

It does rather seem like Chibnal is moving toward the classic feel of the series. From the theme, the removal of cold opens, the plotting, the larger TARDIS team, etc. It's neat and it's sort of refreshing since RTD to Moffat really felt like minor changes to the overall "new drama" format.

The ending seemed rather rushed though, and the "morality" seemed a bit off this week. What happens to the spiders in the panic room? What about the spiders out in Sheffield that didn't go back to the nest? Is putting the mama spider out of it's misery quickly, worse than letting it suffer and slowly suffocate to death?

My favorite part of the episode was Ryan making shadow puppets in the background, while the Doctor is talking to the scientist in her lab. That got quite a big laugh out of me.

Yeah, I have to say that did bother me. I actually wished that they'd made a bigger point of not-Trump actively not heaving it be a mercy killing. Their plan did rather seem to be "let them suffocate to death." And I thought the scientist saying they deserved a natural death of forcing them into a tiny room and starving them to death was odd. It seemed like the "too big to live" ending was in mind, but it didn't quite jibe with the rest of the episode.

And yes! I loved Ryan doing that. Such a neat little character moment.
 
This is my least favorite episode so far. It feels like Chibnill can do character moments really well but when it comes to story, it leaves a lot to be desired. This could have been a freaky adventure story with Spiders but the ending was terrible and the business guy was not necessary at all. Also the music last week was a distraction to the moment, the music this week was way over the top it took me out of the moment.

In terms of character moments, Graham continues to be my favorite character and his moments with Ryan were sweet. I also liked meeting Yaz's family and the stuff in the house was fun.

The new TARDIS vortex was really cool.

I gave the episode a 5. Good character stuff with our characters, unnecessary "not Trump" character with a bad story.
 
Though the character's statement that showing no mercy to the weak is one of the ways to gain the presidency, and presumably hold on to the office, is not so different from what has happened and is happening. It is the mindset of dictators.
 
But wasn’t everyone mortified by the mere rumour of his involvement back when we knew nothing? I’m beginning to think we should put more trust in our showrunners to get it right,

Its funny, but in 2005 I remember a lot of concern on the interwebs regarding a has-been 90s pop singer going to be the best companion! Lol

I guess somethings never change ;)


That was my biggest complaint about the Davies era (that and lovey-dovey Rose...). They didn't visit an alien world (not counting human colonies) until "The Impossible Planet" and they didn't visit one with a civilization until "Planet of the Ood," and even then, with plenty of humans around in both cases (I'm not counting "Utopia" because that was a human refuge).

Back in 2005, I believe one of the conditions Davies made with the BBC was to be more Earth based for budgetry reasons (also why we get so many Victorian era episodes - the Beeb has the costumes and sets already in stock)
 
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Something else I noticed in this episode, which I have not seen much before - the momma spider got so big that she could no longer breathe properly and was suffocating. Poor creature.
 
Ok... no real thoughts yet about the episode other than it was a good, proper “Monster of the Week” episode. I did like that the “You’re that bloke” interaction and at first thought he meant Chris Noth, and not some political statement.

But.... I have a question... Is it me and my new glasses, or does the new series look different than what came before? Have they upgraded from film to digital or something? The CE and DT eras looked almost bargin basement when it came to visuals, but now the show looks like an episode of Law and Order UK by comparison vs the MS era.

I’m sorry if this sounds stupid but I almost find it off-putting.

Series 1-4 were shot on SD Digital video then had a filmic post-effect on them. They switched to Digital HD for the Tennant specials and later. This series I believe they said they would be using the same sort of cameras and lenses they tend to use for films.
 
Enjoyable fluff for the most part. It would be good to have a decent plot at some stage, but so long as the characters remain this interesting I'm prepared to overlook the issue for now. Graham in particular is terrific. Whittaker's Doctor continues to impress. Yet again the episode looked amazing - really liking the cinematography and set design so far this series. Really, really liked the companions independently electing to go with the Doctor, and the Doctor making it clear life in the TARDIS is rarely safe and fluffy and nice. The only false notes were Peter Florrick (which is how I'll always think of Noth) being such an over-the-top scumbag, a somewhat preachy look-after-the-environment message (preachy doesn't work for me as a rule, especially on issues to which I've long been a convert), and the points @Sparky raised (see below). Otherwise...I liked it.

In a show whose premise travels the entire universe in any time range, why does everyone want it to stay on Earth in the modern day only?
This has always been my biggest issue with new Who. The character can go literally anywhere in time and space; the Earth-centricity is annoying and ridiculous.

([OT}:
That was my biggest complaint about the Davies era (that and lovey-dovey Rose...).
Indeed. Bad enough reducing Rose to a simpering adolescent without turning the Doctor into one as well. Another reason I detest the Tennant era. But anyway. /[OT])

I liked how thee Doctor switched to her name, Najia, after Robertson got it wrong.
That was excellent. I liked the Doctor calling Najia "Yaz's mum"; I liked even more that she so pointedly corrected Florrick.

I'm sad that there was no quip or reference to Metebelis III at all though (Unless there was and I missed it.)
As one of the few Pertwee devotees around here, I'm even more disappointed. A real missed opportunity there.

The ending seemed rather rushed though, and the "morality" seemed a bit off this week. What happens to the spiders in the panic room? What about the spiders out in Sheffield that didn't go back to the nest? Is putting the mama spider out of it's misery quickly, worse than letting it suffer and slowly suffocate to death?
Agree with all this. A few extra minutes to tidy up so many loose ends would have been good.

Liking this series so far. More, please.
 
I'm enjoying the new series a lot, I mean sure, we all know that the main cast can do a nice proper RP accent, it's nice that the regions are getting a look-in other than Scotland!

I thought it was brilliant, the non-Trump-Trump-clone was amusing and the social commentary was pretty on point (cutting corners for bigger profits and bugger the environmental costs) and interesting to me, plus the fact it was a wholly man-made issue.

I'm also enjoying #teamTARDIS.

One thing the episode did remind me of was a Pertwee era serial with Giant Maggots in coal mines up north!
 
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