I think you make a good point here. The Star Wars side films might be more important if they had clues and ties to the main sequel films. The side films could've been where we see Rey's parents, Finn's parents, learn Snoke's origin, etc. Marvel has discovered a great formula for how to tell side stories but still connect them to the overall larger story, even if it's just an end credit scene. But when you take the big surprise cameo in Solo, I mean, what was the point since that character's fate was already known by many of the people who would be the most stoked to see that character again? If that had been Snoke for example, it would've shed a little more light on who that character is or what he was up to, and made Solo more important to the new films, therefore more of a must see for sequel trilogy fans. The new films should be driving things, but because they aren't really that good IMO, and there's still a lot of love for the older films and characters, and deservedly so, Lucasfilm wants to serve all that need, however I think they've gone about it in a way that doesn't tie their films together enough, with the side stories being pretty stand alone, relatively speaking (I didn't see Solo but I've heard about it, and while the potential for a sequel is there for that film, it's still a film that has little bearing on the sequel films, from what I've read/heard about it). Even though I liked Rogue One the best of the Disney Star Wars films, I mean would it have been better to shift the story to trying to steal the plans for Starkiller Base? That way we could see Poe's parents perhaps, see a younger Poe, perhaps Max Sydow's character, more General Leia, learn more about the First Order and Resistance, etc. Rogue One, despite my feelings for the film, didn't need to be made. It scratched a nostalgia itch for certain for me, but it didn't really push the larger story forward. It was like filling in a blank that didn't need to be filled in. And from what I heard about Solo, that film also did the same thing, even more than Rogue One.
Disney/LFL to slow down Star Wars releases
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I think you make a good point here. The Star Wars side films might be more important if they had clues and ties to the main sequel films. The side films could've been where we see Rey's parents, Finn's parents, learn Snoke's origin, etc. Marvel has discovered a great formula for how to tell side stories but still connect them to the overall larger story, even if it's just an end credit scene. But when you take the big surprise cameo in Solo, I mean, what was the point since that character's fate was already known by many of the people who would be the most stoked to see that character again? If that had been Snoke for example, it would've shed a little more light on who that character is or what he was up to, and made Solo more important to the new films, therefore more of a must see for sequel trilogy fans. The new films should be driving things, but because they aren't really that good IMO, and there's still a lot of love for the older films and characters, and deservedly so, Lucasfilm wants to serve all that need, however I think they've gone about it in a way that doesn't tie their films together enough, with the side stories being pretty stand alone, relatively speaking (I didn't see Solo but I've heard about it, and while the potential for a sequel is there for that film, it's still a film that has little bearing on the sequel films, from what I've read/heard about it). Even though I liked Rogue One the best of the Disney Star Wars films, I mean would it have been better to shift the story to trying to steal the plans for Starkiller Base? That way we could see Poe's parents perhaps, see a younger Poe, perhaps Max Sydow's character, more General Leia, learn more about the First Order and Resistance, etc. Rogue One, despite my feelings for the film, didn't need to be made. It scratched a nostalgia itch for certain for me, but it didn't really push the larger story forward. It was like filling in a blank that didn't need to be filled in. And from what I heard about Solo, that film also did the same thing, even more than Rogue One.
Well to me, Its kind of like Star Trek, The main sequence of "Skywalker" Films that have Jedi's and all will do well, with both the "main line" movies grossing over 1 billion ( Even the "maligned" ( I mean it made a billion dollars, if everyone hated it.. it would do "Solo" numbers so I don't belive it)) The "Side Story's" won't make that kind of money, Rogue one was the 2nd movie out, and it had Darth Vader, so it was connected, so it made money. A Solo film, or a Obi Wan film Will Not make as much money, I mean, Solo made 400 MILLION! thats nothing to look down on, its just that it cost $300 million + ..
So to me, You can have your solo movies, but make them smaller, don't spend Titanic money.
Maybe on the new disney streamer, you make that Obi wan movie, or make that Boba Fett mini series, you spend your money wisely.
I would love a "Minnions" type of star wars movie, but with Storm Troopers! That would be hillarious and fun!
Star Wars can do a Mystery movie, a Mob movie, a Comedy, a Detective movie, the posibilityes are endless, its a whole galaxy!!
So to me, You can have your solo movies, but make them smaller, don't spend Titanic money.
Maybe on the new disney streamer, you make that Obi wan movie, or make that Boba Fett mini series, you spend your money wisely.
I would love a "Minnions" type of star wars movie, but with Storm Troopers! That would be hillarious and fun!
Star Wars can do a Mystery movie, a Mob movie, a Comedy, a Detective movie, the posibilityes are endless, its a whole galaxy!!
It also doesn't sound like they are cutting content or productions, just that the release will be more strategically time. From a business point of view this makes perfect sense.
^ Formally announcing a project's cancellation isn't a fun or friends-making move, so it's unlikely Iger would do it in an interview otherwise devoted to highlighting his leadership, even if it's an interview in which he cops to mistakes having been made. There's nothing conclusive about the interview either way; all we know for sure is he didn't say Johnson's trilogy is still in active development.
It has nothing to do with whether or not our heroes "win" or not. Luke Han and Leia all lost In The Empire Strikes Back, and that's the best film in the franchise. They were all lucky to escape with their lives.
It's like Captain Picard said to Data, "it's possible to do everything right and still lose". The problem with The Last Jedi was Poe Dameron didn't do anything right. It's not that he failed, it said he failed so ineptly.
He didn’t say the next movie would star Daisy Ridley either. Or that there would be space ships and lasers.
Or the Earth was round. #FlatDisneyWorld
Also, in what universe do companies avoid announcing projects ‘haven’t been picked up’ or ‘are on indefinite hiatus?’ And Disney’s history is littered with ‘we were just accepting pitches, but never green-lit the project in the first place.’
Tron 3 is probably the most recent famous example (or Gigantic, if your up on animation), but they probably issued enough of those press statements to use as the foundations for Disneyland Castle. Especially if you include their video game arms, where they do just flat out screech ‘CANCELLED!!!’
And to be fair to them, sometimes when they say ‘hiatus’ they seem to mean it. For eg. Disney does seem to legitimately want Roger Rabbit 2, but various things keep getting in the way.
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Exactly. There is nothing conclusive. Period.
Let the conspiracy theories and reckless speculation begin.
ESB is not the best film in the franchise. It's well put together, but it only works so well because we know the outcome of the story.
As far as Poe goes, he was doing what he thought was right. he just happened to be wrong and he failed. His arc will mean far more after Episode IX comes out when we see how he grows from that failure. In that instance, I am cutting TLJ slack and not comparing to ESB because we don't know the outcome.
Allow me to rephrase. In my personal opinion, The Empire Strikes Back is by far and away the best film in the franchise. Bar None. Fight me.
It is a horribly negative film in light of the franchise, it dismantles Luke and any of his abilities due to the failings of his teachers, and the Empire cannot catch the Millennium Falcon.
Thematically it is not as enjoyable as a Star Wars film as the original, and enjoys its popularity in part due to ROTJ and the reveals later on down the road. I would not classify it as "the best."
ETA: I will state that I think the score is the best in the franchise.
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Uh... this one? Studios very rarely formally announce they aren't doing movies. Check out the prospective sequels sections of Ghostbusters 2016, The Golden Compass, and Green Lantern, and note the lack of links to press releases and media events announcing prospective sequels have been canned...
Golden Compass is getting a sequel. They’re going at it again as a miniseries, although the original directors were always upfront that a sequel with them was never on the cards.
And technically, Green Lantern did get one. The Corp were in Justice League.
That’s why studios like the words ‘shelved’ and ‘hiatus’ for their properties. Usually, it’s technically the correct word for what they do with them.
And Paul Feige has outright stated Sony didn’t green light a Ghostbusters sequel in any way. Although give it time, and I’m sure there will be another.
Does that count as a sequel though? Surely it's just another adaptation.
Huh? I don't get what you mean by "horribly negative film in light of the franchise". Also, how does it "dismantle Luke's abilities"?
It's true that IR(fictional)L, the Empire could have taken out the Falcon with ease, but it's not like the Falcon comes in guns blazing and takes down the fleet. They are always at least attempting to get away, so the story acknowledges that they don't stand a chance.
It started its life as the sequel.
Hell, Solo and the Sequel Trilogy themselves technically began their development in the 80’s. I’m sure the end results have been very different beasts, but they’re still technically the same project.
You guys have given up haven't you?
This is Donald Trump-level reaching. 
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