Differences between the series and/or the movies:
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They were. It just wasn't shown in the movie.
Because they weren't the stars, and the movie is just two hours long...
Diffrent people likely have different preferences for the handling of their remains. For all we know, Scott's nephew wanted to be brought home for burial if possible.*
*DC's Star Trek Annual #3 (first run) has Scott visiting his nephew's grave in Scotland.
They probably were, according to their various wills. But also, Spock was the Captain of the ship, so his send-off was well-attended.
Redshirts die every week, but Captains are a rare occurrence.
It does make me wonder why they torpedoed Spock and no one else. Seems like if others had been torpedoed, they would've ended up on the Genesis planet and died when it imploded.
Unless they were Vulcans, their clones would have been empty shells without Katras to fill their heads, so it wouldn't have been a great loss, at least according to the movie's logic that is.
Young Spock still had instincts and such. He responded to stimulus and learned to trust Saavik. He could probably have learned speech, behavior, etc, if given more than a few days to try. He would never have been 'Spock' without the katra, but he would've been a person nonetheless.
Yep. I'm sure he could have become a fully functioning person, but he would have to relearn all his skills and knowledge and would have lacked the memories he head before his rejuvenation, so he would have probably grown up to be pretty different person.
Picard was wearing a different colored uniform in the corridor, and let's face it the Borg aren't too bright.
STID: The McCoy's reason for keeping Kahn alive (at all costs) is a bit strained, to say the least.
First, I am sure his blood would still be usable for some time after he's dead and even if it wasn't, they're still the other 72 (popsicles) to draw blood from. Just keep them in an "induced coma" and everything will be fine.
Second, Kahn's "punishment" for killing all these people was to be frozen back to become like his friends, that didn't do anything. Strange justice, to say the least.
Third, how long do they intend to keep them that way? One thousand years? One million? Till the end of time? they could as well kill them and be done with it, plus that would prevent an accidental revival with the horrible consequences that we imagine...
First, I am sure his blood would still be usable for some time after he's dead and even if it wasn't, they're still the other 72 (popsicles) to draw blood from. Just keep them in an "induced coma" and everything will be fine.
Second, Kahn's "punishment" for killing all these people was to be frozen back to become like his friends, that didn't do anything. Strange justice, to say the least.
Third, how long do they intend to keep them that way? One thousand years? One million? Till the end of time? they could as well kill them and be done with it, plus that would prevent an accidental revival with the horrible consequences that we imagine...
The disease being fatal to Vulcans was ready known. It's not like it was some new space disease.
Voyager: No sexual relations with aliens! Starfleet regulations! ("The Disease")
TOS: KIRK BANGS ALL THE ALIEN GIRLS (79 epsodes)
TOS: KIRK BANGS ALL THE ALIEN GIRLS (79 epsodes)
The episode never says that. You can assume McCoy is working off known information, or that its effect on humanoids was known while its effect on vulcanoids was unknown, or that it was brand new and all the info McCoy gives is based on his own research that he's been working on since the outbreak started. The writing is compatible with all three possibilities.
Also, if it was previously known, the fault could just as easily lie with poor medical records as with McCoy. He specifically mentions triple-checking to be sure that the disease is fatal to Vulcans, which wouldn't be necessary if that was already on file.
Well, there was probably a reason for that regulation being implemented some time after TOS!
The City On The Edge Of Forever:
Edith Keeler must die. It's not even considered to take her in the future, which would roughly have the same effect as her demise.
The Voyage Home:
Gillian Taylor tricks her way into the Enterprise. Maybe she would have had children, had she stayed there (She didn't look like a sociopath and was rather easy on the eye). After ten generations that could mean thousands of direct descendants! It would have been funny if Kirk had discovered upon his return that he has in fact never existed (I believe there is a TAS episode where Spock is erased from reality). Yet no one checked if her disappearance would have had any incidence on the timeline!
So to sum up:
TCOTEOF: Edith Keeler must die to preserve the timeline and we can't take her with us.
TVH: Timeline? What timeline?
Edith Keeler must die. It's not even considered to take her in the future, which would roughly have the same effect as her demise.
The Voyage Home:
Gillian Taylor tricks her way into the Enterprise. Maybe she would have had children, had she stayed there (She didn't look like a sociopath and was rather easy on the eye). After ten generations that could mean thousands of direct descendants! It would have been funny if Kirk had discovered upon his return that he has in fact never existed (I believe there is a TAS episode where Spock is erased from reality). Yet no one checked if her disappearance would have had any incidence on the timeline!
So to sum up:
TCOTEOF: Edith Keeler must die to preserve the timeline and we can't take her with us.
TVH: Timeline? What timeline?
This always bothered me. I wish there had been some subplot about them accidentally saving Gillain and thus having to take her with them in order to not fuck up the timeline. And it could have been implied Kirk wanted o do so because he didn't want to repeat the Edith Keeler thing.
Starfleet doesn't have the death penalty consistently.
Khan could argue that he was held hostage and manipulated by Marcus.
There is no way of McCoy knowing precisely how Khan's blood worked or if his other followers would be exactly the same. He had to operate with the best information he had at the time.
Exactly how people should look at Star Trek.
TMP:
What did Illia do to anger V'ger? If it should have been angry at anyone it should have been Spock who broke the computer (Aka the Keyboard).
How come Voyager renamed itself V'ger on account of the stain that was occulting part of its name on its hull? Are we supposed to believe that its (computer) memory is altered the same way as what's written on it?
What did Illia do to anger V'ger? If it should have been angry at anyone it should have been Spock who broke the computer (Aka the Keyboard).
How come Voyager renamed itself V'ger on account of the stain that was occulting part of its name on its hull? Are we supposed to believe that its (computer) memory is altered the same way as what's written on it?
That might have been what the race of machines that found it called it.
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