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Aquaman - The Fish Guy Movie Thread

The trailer is gorgeous but it does look rather by-the-numbers. I still haven't watched Justice League so I don't have any preconceptions about Jason Momoa's performance as Arthur. More of I'll see it when I see it more than anything else.

Momoa as Aquaman and Affleck as Batman were the best parts about JL (and maybe Gadot's Wonder Woman too but then her movie is the best DC movie yet and high ranked amonsgt comicbook movies in general, at least for me) so i have hopes for this movie but being burnt repeatedly by DC i'm very cautious.

Anyone think this movie, since it's an origin story for Aquaman, should have come before Justice League? I do.

And this is why DC is no match for Marvel. Marvel played the long game and built up the franchise from the ground. They got lucky of course by having this initial smash hit with Iron Man and casting Downey Jr. who has become the face of Marvel movies but still there are few if any real duds in what amounts to 20 movies now.

DC panicked when they saw Marvel take off and reap huge bank at the box office but they were impatient and didn't take time to really develop their characters properly.

Superman is grimdark and serious all the time (not that he's a comedian but he's still not a blue/red version of Batman), Green Lantern bombed horribly and the first huge tentpole movie with Superman vs. Batman also didn't take off critically and with the fans (though it still did well at the box office).

Wonder Woman is the first movie that actually worked on all fronts because they got the team right.. a director who understood and presented the character well, a good story and perfect casting. Had DC started their franchise with this movie and kept up the same level of quality as Marvel their franchise would also only get better with time.

Justice League, their version of the Avengers, just fell flat because they had to introduce quite a few characters and get Superman back into the mix which took up half the movie, the villain was very weak (granted, Marvel also has that problem for the most part) and the story was not that engaging.

Excuse the rant but you are right of course.. they should have shamelessly copied the Marvel method and introduce each character properly and give them at least 1-2 movies to develop before going for the big one.
 
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Anyone think this movie, since it's an origin story for Aquaman, should have come before Justice League? I do.
Why? There’s nothing doing it that way. Showing the character as what he is, and then going back to find out more about them.
The New 52 started off the same way with the JL comic coming first and then the solos.
There is no one correct way of doing it.
 
Why? There’s nothing doing it that way. Showing the character as what he is, and then going back to find out more about them.
The New 52 started off the same way with the JL comic coming first and then the solos.
There is no one correct way of doing it.

It just makes sense to me to do it that way. You introduce your characters first so that the audience can get to know them and become attached to them before you throw them together in a big team movie.
 
It just makes sense to me to do it that way. You introduce your characters first so that the audience can get to know them and become attached to them before you throw them together in a big team movie.

We didn't need seven films to understand who was who and why they were there in Seven Samurai, Magnificent Seven, Oceans Eleven, Kelly's Heroes, Excalibur or any of the literally too numerous to mention ensemble movies that have come out for the last one hundred years.
 
Why? There’s nothing doing it that way. Showing the character as what he is, and then going back to find out more about them.
The New 52 started off the same way with the JL comic coming first and then the solos.
There is no one correct way of doing it.
I agree there's nothing intrinsically to say this couldn't work -- the "in medias res" approach to superhero teamup movies. The DCEU's problems are more in execution than in concept.
 
It just makes sense to me to do it that way. You introduce your characters first so that the audience can get to know them and become attached to them before you throw them together in a big team movie.
...and have an audience unfamiliar with nonentity characters like Cyborg shoehorned in with little introduction and zero audience recognition.
 
...and have an audience unfamiliar with nonentity characters like Cyborg shoehorned in with little introduction and zero audience recognition.

Those Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision... solo movies were absolutely fantastic, though we didn't really need them since they're totally household names that everybody knew everything about before they hit the big screen. :p
 
Those Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision... solo movies were absolutely fantastic, though we didn't really need them since they're totally household names that everybody knew everything about before they hit the big screen. :p
You make a good point, but conversely, Iron Man was also a 'B' lister who was 'properly' introduced as the 'A' listers weren't available. Ant Man, Thor, etc. Marvel did set many up via solo movies. You could read it both ways.

Aquaman's always been a bit of a rubbish character and I didn't like the 'Finding Nemo' look of the undersea scenes, the character design, nor the dodgy effects (although that might not be finished) effects.

I liked Man of Steel, Wonder Woman and even Batman vs Superman, but everything else (and even parts of those) screams that DC have little idea what they're doing. Whilst admitting that you can be pleasantly surprised (I thought Marvel's Guardians would be tripe), Aquaman looks extremely likely to carry on that DC tradition...
 
Those Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision... solo movies were absolutely fantastic, though we didn't really need them since they're totally household names that everybody knew everything about before they hit the big screen. :p
Of course, all of those characters except Vision had, at the very least, a brief appearance in a previous movie before showing up in an Avengers movie. At least more than a brief video montage that was more Easter Egg than anything else that the JL characters got. They deserved more.

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I have a feeling this film may FLOP, or at least underperform.

It's keeping it's December 21st release, but it's competition is Disney's Mary Poppins Returns (a potential big hit), Transformers: Bumblebee, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, etc.

All these films are going to chip away at Aquaman's potential earnings. The issue is Aquaman has a 200 Million plus budget. The other films have smaller budgets and it is easier for them to turn a profit.

Aquaman, however, could sink if the competition is this heavy.
 
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I have a feeling this film may FLOP, or at least underperform.

It's keeping it's December 21st release, but it's competition is Disney's Mary Poppins Returns (a potential big hit), Transformers: Bumblebee, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Alita: Battle Angel, Mortal Engines, etc.

All these films are going to chip away at Aquaman's potential earnings. The issue is Aquaman has a 200 Million plus budget. The other films have smaller budgets and it is easier for them to turn a profit.

Aquaman, however, could sink if the competition is this heavy.
I think only Mary Poppins Returns and Bumblebee are any real competition for Aquaman. Spider-Man will probably have a modest take but I don't expect it to make a lot, while I haven't even heard of those last two.
 
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Ah, right, I do remember seeing those trailers (or at least the teaser for Mortal Engines), but unless there's some hidden deep fandom built-in for either those films, I just don't see them being much of a problem for Aquaman.
 
Aquaman has Ronan Dex. It’ll do fine.
Also, referring to my previous post, this story happens after JL so it wouldn’t have worked coming before.
 
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