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Season 2 Teaser

I think they may be setting up a merge of the Kelvinverse and the Primeverse.

Those sure looked a hell of a lot like Red Matter detonations in that region of space where they were going to investigate the galaxy-threatening emergency situation. And it's somehow tied to YoungPrimeSpock in a way and caused his leave of absence. What if the death of OldPrimeSpock in the Kelvinverse somehow caused a psychic connection to form through the Mycelial Network underlying the universe and connecting all points in time and space, including alternate universes, and that summoned YoungPrimeSpock to the source of the Red Matter events, much like V'Ger would later call to him from across the galaxy?

This is an awful, stupid, fanwanky idea that would simultaneously cheese off my canonista side and my "let's forget canon and just have good stories" side. I cannot believe any working Hollywood writer would be so stupid as to try this.

It is therefore certainly correct. I told people that even the bad writing staff on Discovery wouldn't be so bad at their jobs as to make Voq vanish a week after his reappearance. I told people that even the bad writing staff on Discovery would never sacrifice so much of their season for a tweeeeeest reveal that Lorca was his own Mirror counterpart. Wrong both times. There is no depth of awful, hackneyed tweeeeest writing the Discovery writing room will not plumb.

I'm not going to comment on the rest of the trailer because I can tell my reaction is colored by my hostility to the show. I would have laughed at the "sneeze" moment on Enterprise, but rolled my eyes here. So that's on me, and I'll wait for the season to air before forming a judgment.
 
It would be cool if the reason they're holding out on Spock is to possibly get Quinto, but if he doesn't want to do it or has scheduling conflicts they can recast.

Interestingly, if the merge idea does pan out, it provides a means for recasting Chekov while still saying it's a different person from Yelchin's portrayal.
 
This is an awful, stupid, fanwanky idea that would simultaneously cheese off my canonista side and my "let's forget canon and just have good stories" side. I cannot believe any working Hollywood writer would be so stupid as to try this.
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They spent all this money on the show's production to make it cinematic, yet they're advertising it with a very standard TV-type trailer. Complete with safe contemporary pop rock music and all. You'd think they'd want a big wondrous awe inspiring trailer to make it match the expensive production.
 
They spent all this money on the show's production to make it cinematic, yet they're advertising it with a very standard TV-type trailer. Complete with safe contemporary pop rock music and all. You'd think they'd want a big wondrous awe inspiring trailer to make it match the expensive production.
Given how trailers are put together, this was likely CBS' request to start.
 
They spent all this money on the show's production to make it cinematic, yet they're advertising it with a very standard TV-type trailer. Complete with safe contemporary pop rock music and all. You'd think they'd want a big wondrous awe inspiring trailer to make it match the expensive production.
The song is twenty years old. :lol:
Movies and movie trailers use pop music now. It's a thing. Usually a current one though. Unless it's Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
I liked the call-out to having fun.

IMHO, it's still too "try-hard".

Feels like a bunch of checklists aimed at pandering to a particular demographic.

Pew Pew (check)
Modern music those millenials are so hip to (check)
Add humor ala Kelvin-verse (check)
Lean on existing canon characters for fanservice (check)
 
This is an awful, stupid, fanwanky idea that would simultaneously cheese off my canonista side and my "let's forget canon and just have good stories" side. I cannot believe any working Hollywood writer would be so stupid as to try this.

It is therefore certainly correct. I told people that even the bad writing staff on Discovery wouldn't be so bad at their jobs as to make Voq vanish a week after his reappearance. I told people that even the bad writing staff on Discovery would never sacrifice so much of their season for a tweeeeeest reveal that Lorca was his own Mirror counterpart. Wrong both times. There is no depth of awful, hackneyed tweeeeest writing the Discovery writing room will not plumb.

I'm not going to comment on the rest of the trailer because I can tell my reaction is colored by my hostility to the show. I would have laughed at the "sneeze" moment on Enterprise, but rolled my eyes here. So that's on me, and I'll wait for the season to air before forming a judgment.
You rolled your eyes at the sneeze, I laughed and said "oh, come on" at the first sight of the Mirror Universe uniforms. Sometimes, you just have to sit back and laugh.
 
Nah, they should do a series about the USS Saratoga from TVH. I mean, as long as we're building shows around characters that all of five people in the audience know about ...

The Enterprise is a character unto itself and the NCC-1701 is iconic in pop culture. Building a series around her creation and early missions will hold a little more weight with audiences than a show based on the random Saratoga.
 
TOS character revisits were just those few, with Scotty's episode having been one dip into the well too many, as it were. Spock and Sarek would've been alive in TNG's time and not "illogical" to include them. Although I will be the first to admit that there episodes were not that great. Uhm ... Bones' passing the torch, I could've done without, but they felt it important that the first series sequel get TOS' blessing ... what can you do, you know? But I agree entirely about TNG and, especially DS9, being entirely too dependent on the Klingons. Yes, TNG relied on that TOS staple almost regularly so ... you definitely got me, there.
I agree about the Klingons... mostly because TNG and DS9 so rarely found anything actually interesting to do with the Klingons. They took a potentially fascinating species and turned them into one-note clichés.

But TOS callbacks? That's another story. IMHO those were consistently among the best episodes of the Berman-era series, and I wouldn't have minded more.

I'll bet any money that there's gonna be an echo chamber across the net for an 'Enterprise/Pike' spinoff series after his episodes premiere...

Even though it would be silly to do so, since Pike is nearly at the end of his mission at this point.
How do you figure? It's fall 2257 for the DSC crew. The standard understanding of canon is that Pike commanded the Enterprise from 2251 to 2264. IOW, he's basically smack in the middle, with more years ahead of him yet than the total time that Kirk had the ship.

(Which is not to say I disagree that the April era would've made more sense for a prequel. But that ship has sailed...)

He's 45. How old is Pike supposed to be in the year STD season 2 takes place? It looks like they artificially aged him for Season 2. I don't think it would be a problem for him to pull off 35 if they wanted to.
Pike (in the prime timeline) is typically said to have been born in 2219, so he's about 38 at this point.

There's a reason Origin Stories are nearly universally hated: there's a reason it was Backstory.
Universally hated where? In super-hero universes, for instance, the origin story is often understood to be the best story about a given character, the one that really shapes things before they settle down into formula. Granted that's not exactly the context here, but I'm struggling to think of a context that really fits your remark.

Nah, they should do a series about the USS Saratoga from TVH. I mean, as long as we're building shows around characters that all of five people in the audience know about ...
Oh, c'mon. Any self-respecting Trek fan knows who Robert April is!

Seriously, "who was the first captain of the Enterprise?" is basically Level 1 in any Star Trek trivia contest...

The song is twenty years old. :lol:
Movies and movie trailers use pop music now. It's a thing. Usually a current one though. Unless it's Guardians of the Galaxy.
And? In pop-culture terms, 20 years ago might as well be last week...
 
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