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Season 2 Teaser

I'm not sure what you're pardoning about ... I'm assuming you're asking me to rephrase. I'm wondering why Discovery doesn't just come up with its own stories, without having to continue to use TOS like the back of a chair to lean on. That the series takes a page out of TNG's book, in that TNG did reference TOS, on occasion, but it usually tried to make up its own aliens, it's own situations, it's own "universe," if you will. I hope this answers your query ...
It's called being a prequel.
If they were really interested in doing totally new stories not connected to TOS, they would have set the show after Nemesis, not just a few years before TOS.
 
Great trailer!! You can certainly see where they might have gone over budget. Did not at all expect Pike to be temporary captain but I'm not against it. I was hoping we'd see the Enterprise and Discovery cruising around together though. Maybe we still will when Pike leaves.

I'm also glad Michael is still front and center like she should be. Still the main character haters and that doesn't seem like it will be changing at all. I think during the panel they even hinted that she is intended to become captain. It really is just a matter of when I think. Maybe at the end of this season? Can't wait to find out.

I do wonder if they took some of the criticism of Discovery/praise of The Orville to heart. It seemed a lot less dour than season one.
The overall tone of Discovery was changing toward the end of season 1 due to the events changing. The war is over. Things weren't darker just for the sake of being darker. The situation the crew was it determined things. I still expect the series to be serious, darker then past treks and still graphic when appropriate. It's not going to suddenly 180 now that the characters are allowed to be more relaxed.

Also that elevator scene has been done before in other shows/movies. It's not something specific to one show.
 
Yeah, it's definitely closer to the Kelvin (or ST09) effect.

This is basically Kurtzam's vision as opposed to [trying best to match] Fuller's vision.

I think he was probably more involved in 09's creative process than any of us realize, or was at least heavily influenced by it.

And when I see something like the elevator scene, my first instinct is to directly make that connection.
 
Oh, I don't know about that, JD. I suspect it was just the necessity to keep a new series in the era of what's currently being sold as "STAR TREK." Why go a thousand years in the future, when what's hot is the 23rd Century. But you may have a point there, I just don't see the point of bringing the sequels era and universe into it.
 
Yeah, it's definitely closer to the Kelvin (or ST09) effect.

This is basically Kurtzam's vision as opposed to [trying best to match] Fuller's vision.

I think he was probably more involved in 09's creative process than any of us realize, or was at least heavily influenced by it.

And when I see something like the elevator scene, my first instinct is to directly make that connection.
Never would have imagined myself preferring Kurtzman's vision to Fuller's. That is if he does have a large part in the direction of this season.

This new trailer definitely gives me renewed hope.
 
What's so great about Fuller? Honestly, his ideas for Trek sounded terrible.

Kurtzman may indeed be the lesser of two evils. He seems to have a better understanding of what Star Trek is, instead of trying to be edgy and reinvent it into something it's not.
 
I'm also glad Michael is still front and center like she should be. Still the main character haters and that doesn't seem like it will be changing at all.

I saw someone pissed at the Star Trek Adversaries game cover because Burnham was there along with the previous main characters, because she wasn't the captain. Well, if you purposely redefine the lineup to be something different, of course she doesn't fit. But it's not "captains" but "main characters".
 
I'm also glad Michael is still front and center like she should be. Still the main character haters and that doesn't seem like it will be changing at all.

She may be the main character on paper, but Pike will steal her thunder easily. Hopefully they don't write him off unceremoniously like they did with Jason Isaacs.

I think during the panel they even hinted that she is intended to become captain. It really is just a matter of when I think. Maybe at the end of this season? Can't wait to find out.

Let's hope not. She would be the dullest Captain in the franchise history.
 
Specifically... the bit with Detmer and Owosekun goggling at each othe
You're not wrong. It was the weakest gag.

Like the more light-hearted tone here. Mount looks good as Pike.

That last bit felt really out of place though. Like something you'd see in an Adam Sandler movie, where the 'joke' is 'haha, he got snot on his face!'. Hope the writing's a bit smarter than that.
Or the Orville. ;)
 
Hmm, a bit cheesy- not the usual Star Trek cheesy, but in the dorky show thinks it's cool way.

I wouldn't get too bothered by the music- I doubt they're going to be playing Lenny Kravitz during upcoming Disco episodes. (But with Kurtzman, who knows?)

As someone who isn't enthused by the maudlin pop song montages in the likes of Walking Dead, I sincerely hope this trend doesn't become part of Trek.

Mount looks like a solid choice.

Er, not terribly inspired by producers who feel the need to recycle the old "Funny Alien Makes Snot" gag, as seen in Trek Beyond.

There isn't that much else to be gleaned, other than it looks like they'll try to make Disco more "fun" and peppy. "Math is f*ckin' rad, y'all!" (Cue the "OMG I heart Tilly" tweets.)

I'll try to say something else positive... Linus looks neat, hilarious mucus aside.
 
Linus the Saurian just became my favourite character.
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linus is the best!
 
I'm also glad Michael is still front and center like she should be. Still the main character haters and that doesn't seem like it will be changing at all. I think during the panel they even hinted that she is intended to become captain.
You and me both :) :beer:

I wouldn't get too bothered by the music- I doubt they're going to be playing Lenny Kravitz during upcoming Disco episodes. (But with Kurtzman, who knows?)
Trailers are usually assembled by a different company.
 
I'm not sure what you're pardoning about ... I'm assuming you're asking me to rephrase. I'm wondering why Discovery doesn't just come up with its own stories, without having to continue to use TOS like the back of a chair to lean on. That the series takes a page out of TNG's book, in that TNG did reference TOS, on occasion, but it usually tried to make up its own aliens, it's own situations, it's own "universe," if you will. I hope this answers your query ...
The damn Klingons at times seemed to take over TNG and DS9. We had appearances by Scott, Sarek and Spock. They lifted an entire plot from TOS.
 
TOS character revisits were just those few, with Scotty's episode having been one dip into the well too many, as it were. Spock and Sarek would've been alive in TNG's time and not "illogical" to include them. Although I will be the first to admit that there episodes were not that great. Uhm ... Bones' passing the torch, I could've done without, but they felt it important that the first series sequel get TOS' blessing ... what can you do, you know? But I agree entirely about TNG and, especially DS9, being entirely too dependent on the Klingons. Yes, TNG relied on that TOS staple almost regularly so ... you definitely got me, there.
 
“Hit it” or “engage” ?

Pike has (now) been known to say both - not to mention “punch it”.

Would it be too Picard-esque for Pike to say “engage”?
 
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