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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

They've said Season 2 will be lighter since the war is over. It will be more optimistic.

All well and fine, but that doesn't mean that all of Trek from Discovery Season 2 onward will be lighter.

The argument of whether Gene's vision or that of those who have come after is more realistic rages onward.

Creative teams come and go and the future of Trek is really wide open and will be influenced by many factors, as has always been the case.
 
I would strongly prefer that TOS not be"remastered" to DSC esthetic.
I would not pay to buy those Blu-Rays.
Maybe DSC should be cancelled long before WNMHGB.
 
I would strongly prefer that TOS not be"remastered" to DSC esthetic.
I would not pay to buy those Blu-Rays.
Maybe DSC should be cancelled long before WNMHGB.

If, by some chance, they were to do it I would own a set as a curiosity. I would think of it as its own alternate universe. But I would have it on a shelf side-by-side with a set of 2004 pre-CGI discs.
 
That's still 9 years off (In-universe), so it will probably end before then.

We don't know what they might have planned, though. Some subsequent movies followed a shorter time span between what we saw and others longer. No reason why Discovery might not jump ahead.
 
All the main characters were against it, they treated them like a cancer to the Federation. Julian had monologues about it.
Yet the S31 was depicted as being instrumental to winning the war and the main character committed a murderous conspiracy. I really do not need any DS9 style 'optimism'. But I don't want to derail this thread by complaining about the depressing mess that was DS9, there are active threads in DS9 forum section for that. Here I want to complain about the depressing mess that is Discovery.
 
If we are to believe that STD is in Prime universe, and Discoprise we see now is visual retcon of original Enterprise, what would Refit-Discoprise look like?
Here she is in drydock, getting beefed up...
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Okay, Forgive me going on a Tear here.. But you must understand...

I HAVE TO.. It's an inborn need to dive deep into this with visual aides of course, for those familiar with my posts..

Here we go folks.
I First need to preface this with a little explanation and background. I'm a child of the 80s. I grew up watching at that time, before TNG, reruns of the TOS series, which used to play on Nick at Night, then during the daytime usually, there was in between Danger Mouse and "You can't do that on Television" the Cartoon Star Trek series. I have the Vinyl Records released by Power Records, which came with a full size giant comic as the record sleeve. I love them! I am a huge TOS fan. I spent decades in discussion with fellow Trekkers who over the years have become some of my greatest friends. One constant tho, is the reverence for the TOS Enterprise. Whether in live action or animated by Filmation, it was one of the greatest childhood memories I have, to include TV treys in the garage with toys for controls, and friends acting like we are in the enterprise. A tape deck provided the background noises of the bridge while we played Star Trek in my family garage. Of course, since it was my garage, I got to be Kirk. It was glorious days.

Now I see this ship on STD.. and I just don't know. I think it's those damn running lights that really piss me off. New technology is not good or evil in and of itself. It's all about how people choose to use it. ~David Wong

Instead of going this route..
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That's a horrible Bridge, looks like the Kelvin window for God's Sake!!
I mean, sure.. it's logical I suppose. But you figure with the monitor, they can use any angle of the ship and see what ever they want without issue. I don't know, it just looks really stupid IMHO. I can't really get on board.
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It's the NX and Refit with some Phase II. It's the Amalgamprise! But it's not the TOS.
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However, any one of these designs I would have accepted if CBS went that direction..

1. Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee (designer of the 2007 ‘Foolerprise‘) has taken a crack at it by creating something more detailed and realistic, while retaining original design elements, even down to “The Cage” era pointy nacelles.
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2. Dennis Bailey (TNG writer and Starship Exeter CGI artist) also took a crack at a reimagined 1701 by blending the TOS, Phase II and TMP era Enterprises
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LOL what's funny is me and Dennis had the same Idea. I didn't know of his work until I found it in a google search. Great Minds apparently. LOL. here's that pic I was messing around with again.
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Pike's ship should look much better is all I am saying.
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I can't stand the running lights. I mean, I just really hate them and the window. I can't explain it in rational terms, rationality does not matter in this instance, as this is purely an emotional response, I freely acknowledge. So rational debate won't change that. It is just how I feel about those items on the STDprise. I'm NOT a fan of that look. Although had they went with VeKtor's designs, I would have also been happy not just favoring Bailey's design concept. I just figured that the design I was trying to combine TOS and TMP refit. It seemed logical the TOS could look closer to the TMP refit. So I really really like this Bailey render I found online. I could accept that design. I would buy an art asylum or McFarlane electronic 11" ship based on it! But I still say, nothing beats the original. It's like that first time you fell in love. It was my first SCIFI series, and got me into Jules Verne, Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury and so on.

I just wish there could be some tweaks before season 2, but looks like they are committed.. so buckle up folks. that is the shit..ahem.. ship we are stuck with.

Well, Sorry for the long skreee.. I just had to get out that at first I kinda liked the design, but more and more over time, the more I see of it, the more I learn about the design, it's not growing on me. It's like the feeling I got with the Kelvinverse Enterprise.. oh, a new take! .. time passes.. What? Oh? I forgot there was a Kelvin timeline let alone a ship design.. let me google that..
Oh, yea.. I remember.

But TOS..Enterprise
Will always be there for me, in that special way.
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Permission to come aboard sir?
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I mean, sure.. it's logical I suppose. But you figure with the monitor, they can use any angle of the ship and see what ever they want without issue.
They still can with the window I assume.

Discovery has used it for 2D communications in a couple episodes, so I assume they could project other views on it.

I can't stand the running lights.
Do you mean logo lights?

Running lights are on a car.
 
They still can with the window I assume.

Discovery has used it for 2D communications in a couple episodes, so I assume they could project other views on it.


Do you mean logo lights?

Running lights are on a car.
Logo Lights yes.. My bad. I was thinking of the TOS Enterprise like it was my first car. :biggrin:
So it colored my choice of words there. LOL
 
He was part of the design team at Mars.

When did he have time for that? And when was this mentioned? I haven't watched DS9 in a dozen years.

No they didn't.

Yeah, they really did.

I really do not need any DS9 style 'optimism'.

I think you completely missed the point of DS9. The best way you can show Trek's optimism is to challenge it, bring it to the brink, deconstruct it, and yet have it triump at the end, which is exactly what DS9 and DSC did.
 

Okay I can accept the window only with two caveats.. (I only wish this became a Mantra to the powers that be to add some compromise to the fans, maybe we would respond a bit better to STD)
But, I think two ideas should be incorporated into the concept.

1. The "Window" should be made of 6 foot thick Transparent aluminum, with built in Technology to allow for the window to display any image they want to project on the "window".

2. The exterior of the "Window" would have a battle mode concept built into it. when going into battle, the exterior "window" should be able to polarize, and make it look like just another part of the Hull from the outside, but inside its just as clear. However, when in Battle Mode, this "Window" screen automatically becomes a tactical battle plotter, with targeting and data on the enemy ship constantly coming across the "window" screen. This "Window" would logically be a prime target in a battle.

I could accept it then. Especially since Transparent aluminum is real!
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Come to think of it.. Why not make the window transparent aluminum, and make the interior "Screen" an overlay of Technology, like a transparent thick sticker, which projects all the data on top of the transparent aluminum window. Also, it wouldn't have to polarize the exterior aluminum, per se', rather the interior computer screen transparent film can polarize sticker side out, and make it look like the window isn't there in battle. Hmmmm....

Possibilities there.
 
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Okay I can accept the window only with two caveats.. (I only wish this became a Mantra to the powers that be to add some compromise to the fans, maybe we would respond a bit better to STD)
But, I think two ideas should be incorporated into the concept.

1. The "Window" should be made of 6 foot thick Transparent aluminum, with built in Technology to allow for the window to display any image they want to project on the "window".

2. The exterior of the "Window" would have a battle mode concept built into it. when going into battle, the exterior "window" should be able to polarize, and make it look like just another part of the Hull from the outside, but inside its just as clear. However, when in Battle Mode, this "Window" screen automatically becomes a tactical battle plotter, with targeting and data on the enemy ship constantly coming across the "window" screen. This "Window" would logically be a prime target in a battle.

I could accept it then. Especially since Transparent aluminum is real!
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I see nothing wrong with either of these caveats and am rather amused by the fact that the term "window" defaults to "functionless see through thing" when discussed. :rolleyes:
 
When did he have time for that? And when was this mentioned? I haven't watched DS9 in a dozen years.
It was in between the Battle of Wolf 359 and DS9 Season 1.

I'm trying to find a quote that mentions it.. But I can't find one. Could it be one of those urban legends that people seem to think is canon but isn't?

Memory-Alpha mentions it and gives 'The Search' as the source, but I'm not seeing anything.
 
Okay I can accept the window only with two caveats.. (I only wish this became a Mantra to the powers that be to add some compromise to the fans, maybe we would respond a bit better to STD)
But, I think two ideas should be incorporated into the concept.

1. The "Window" should be made of 6 foot thick Transparent aluminum, with built in Technology to allow for the window to display any image they want to project on the "window".

2. The exterior of the "Window" would have a battle mode concept built into it. when going into battle, the exterior "window" should be able to polarize, and make it look like just another part of the Hull from the outside, but inside its just as clear. However, when in Battle Mode, this "Window" screen automatically becomes a tactical battle plotter, with targeting and data on the enemy ship constantly coming across the "window" screen. This "Window" would logically be a prime target in a battle.

I could accept it then. Especially since Transparent aluminum is real!
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Come to think of it.. Why not make the window transparent aluminum, and make the interior "Screen" an overlay of Technology, like a transparent thick sticker, which projects all the data on top of the transparent aluminum window. Also, it wouldn't have to polarize the exterior aluminum, per se', rather the interior computer screen transparent film can polarize sticker side out, and make it look like the window isn't there in battle. Hmmmm....

Possibilities there.

The Enterprise-D had a skylight, as did the original connie design in 'The Cage'. Probably made from the same stuff.
 
It was in between the Battle of Wolf 359 and DS9 Season 1.

I'm trying to find a quote that mentions it.. But I can't find one. Could it be one of those urban legends that people seem to think is canon but isn't?

Memory-Alpha mentions it and gives 'The Search' as the source, but I'm not seeing anything.

I've seen that episode multiple times and it doesn't ring a bell. If it's in canon, it's in a later episode.
 
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