I could say the same thing about TMP.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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You can, but the actual story line of The Motion Picture explains everything but the Klingon changes.
And those changes were generally accepted after the movie came out, as being a different off-shoot of Klingon society.
(at least till "ENTERPRISE" and its "Augment" theory)
Not to my satisfaction. I'm picky sometimesYou can, but the actual story line of The Motion Picture explains everything but the Klingon changes.
And those changes were generally accepted after the movie came out, as being a different off-shoot of Klingon society.
(at least till "ENTERPRISE" and its "Augment" theory)
Also, Kirk's behavior, Spock's behavior as well as some of the tech seems inconsistent with TOS. It doesn't fit seamlessly.
... a lot can happen in almost two years to change a persons outlook on life.Not to my satisfaction. I'm picky sometimes
Also, Kirk's behavior, Spock's behavior as well as some of the tech seems inconsistent with TOS. It doesn't fit seamlessly.
Hell, sometimes it only takes a moment.
Kirk and Crew came back to a Hero's Welcome they probably didn't really want and then most of them ended up in positions that clearly weren't what they expected.
Spock, McCoy & Scotty were probably the only ones that were actually doing what they truly wanted to do.
Sulu, Uhura & Chekov probably went on hiatus till they were needed for the actual interior refit of the Enterprise.
That's a pretty through explanation for me.
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STC did a good finale that leads to those character changes. Not official but worth the viewNot to my satisfaction. I'm picky sometimes
Also, Kirk's behavior, Spock's behavior as well as some of the tech seems inconsistent with TOS. It doesn't fit seamlessly.
I agree, a lot can happen. Just like a lot can happen in 10 years before TOS. That's the point. If TMP is acceptable changes after two years then DSC is acceptable for ten.... a lot can happen in almost two years to change a persons outlook on life.
Hell, sometimes it only takes a moment.
Kirk and Crew came back to a Hero's Welcome they probably didn't really want and then most of them ended up in positions that clearly weren't what they expected.
Spock, McCoy & Scotty were probably the only ones that were actually doing what they truly wanted to do.
That's a pretty through explanation for me.
Not to my satisfaction. I'm picky sometimes
Also, Kirk's behavior, Spock's behavior as well as some of the tech seems inconsistent with TOS. It doesn't fit seamlessly.
Well, Spock did go through Kolinahr. What is it about Kirk that's inconsistent?
They don’t need to explain themI'll be more comfortable with DISCOVERY if they eventually give us a bit of dialogue (occasionally) to explain Their changes.
Just like they didn’t need to explain the Klingon changes.
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Yep you missed it.
Yep. Nonsensically radical changes need no explanation. Especially the extraordinarily nonsensically radical ones. They're the best. At that point, the viewer should be providing the explanations. Star Trek meets Twin Peaks. Laura Palmer is part of the mycelial network.
Yep you missed it.
'Course, if they used the '09 design that would just "prove" that DSC is in the Kelvin timeline.
No, they actually don't. Retroactive changes mean exactly that: they are changed retroactively, so according to the continuity from now on, they were always this way. Ergo, no change, no explanation needed.
If you read about the history of the B-24, as an example, quite a lot of what is being discussed in this thread has a bit of precedent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_B-24_Liberator
The section devoted to variants and conversions is particularly relevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_B-24_Liberator
The section devoted to variants and conversions is particularly relevant.
Just generally being a jerk.
Admiral Kirk never shot a bowl of cookies, at least.
He did forget to check on a certain exiled and extremely dangerous colony of augments and a former crewmember, where a planet exploded for no given reason. Come to think of it.. shouldn't Starfleet have had information on that, too? Does ANYONE read this guy's logs? "Captain's Log Stardate yadda yadda.. discovered a greek god .. green space hand.. it's in your butt. No one reads this stuff. Kirk out"
It's probably long-term effects of being in warp fields or cumulative transporter use or something. They should look into that.
Still a jerk.
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