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Disney Scraps Plans For Further Star Wars Storys

I didn't get to see a single person like myself on any form of media until I was 30. So I honestly have no sympathy or respect for white men whining about how they've gone from having 100% representation to 99.999999% representation. They're like greedy children upset that they can't have everything.
 
It also sounds like you're mixing up Solo and The Last Jedi, because Canto and The First Order were in TLJ but not in Solo.

Or that they just haven’t seen Solo, but are getting talking points from ‘rant’ videos.

Infamous for being utterly unable to argue a coherent point, because they’ll randomly throwing in tangents about unrelated things. Either to make it seem like they have more ‘evidence’ to support them than they actually do, or to pad out an otherwise short video out for more sweet, sweet Youtube ad revenue.

(But yes, it’s totally the people running Star Wars that are the ones exploiting and treating ‘aggrieved’ fans like morons. Dur.)
 
I'm a white hetero male, and I love that they are diversifying the SW a bit more. Anybody who has a problem with women, minorities or LGBT characters in franchises like SW needs to accept the fact that world is made of more than white straight men, and just shut the hell up.
Full disclosure: I am a white, hetero, right-of-center with libertarian leanings, male who thinks there is no problem with SW as it has been presented. I have watched videos, read articles, and I cannot make heads or tails of what is so objectionable in the current cast of heroes. I mean, if TFA was so off putting with its female and minority leads then why did Rogue One do so well? It couldn't possibly be that people actually want to see more than my people in the lead? Because, I'll let you in on a secret. Not every straight white male fears a strong women. The strongest people I know are women, and the only thing that I fear about them is the line to the bathroom.

For all of the success of the OT and the PT it isn't that great with diversity, even for females. I mean, I'm no expert on male to female ratio in the general population (much less LGBTQ), but I figure the 1 out of 4 that occurs in the OT (5 if you count Obi-Wan in ANH, Lando in the other two) and Padme and Shmi in the PT, are not representative. More than that, how in the world are new fans supposed to be invited in to the world of Star Wars if only one type of hero is offered?

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What is this utter nonsense based on? If you choose to answer, I want to see facts, not subjective interpretations.

Where were you when there was someone touting that TLJ is overwhelming loved,by fans? This trivial comment, and you come out of the woodwork. LMAO
 
Where were you when there was someone touting that TLJ is overwhelming loved,by fans? This trivial comment, and you come out of the woodwork. LMAO

Our polls show that it is. At least by the ‘fans’ here.

As did the exit polls taken by Cinemasscore, the imdb, and host of other sources.

RT’s audience score was an outlier, that ended up having its credibility further damaged by ‘fans’ gloating about trying to ‘game’ it’s results. Because for supposably genius and totally rational saboteurs, they apparently missed the fucking point of the entire exercise.
 
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Where were you when there was someone touting that TLJ is overwhelming loved,by fans? This trivial comment, and you come out of the woodwork. LMAO
It's easy when you don't limit your sources of information to those that only agree with your already drawn conclusion. Your posts are quite similar to a Creationist ignoring all evidence of evolution and using the pitiful scraps that they call "evidence". You're only looking at what you want to see and ignoring everything else despite the overwhelming evidence that you're wrong. It's cultlike thinking.
 
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You present a nice example of convoluted reasoning.

Do I?

Interesting in light of the rest of your post.

Did TLJ make money? Sure.
Was it a success? That is subjective. If money is the only indicator, then yes. If critical acclaim , Then yes.

So, yes.

If measured by fan feedback, the people who bought those tickets?

You mean the audience who, when surveyed, gave overwhelmingly positive feedback?

The audience who had RT scores up to 91% during it's run?

You keep claiming the fans didn't like TLJ, yet you are posting in a thread full of fans telling you they did.


So TLJ led to the Solo numbers,

Convoluted reasoning much there?

Three films with female leads are massively successful, one with a male lead fails.

Ergo it's the fault of the females.

IDK..what was the significance of making that a prominent role in the story? Did it help on Canto? Did it help with the FO? I don't see why it was necessary.

What was the point of making Han straight a prominent role in the story?
 
Demographics. The UK in the 70s wasn't exactly a melting pot of diversity. Go watch some old Dr. Whos and see how many minorities are playing humanoid aliens on the show.

Er, not all that familiar with the UK then?. It was then and remains one of the most diverse nations on the planet.

Apparently you are in a small minority of people who didn't know this.

You don't get it. Star Wars was never supposed to be overtly political

According to whom? Strange how decades of film critics and academics picked up on depth you didn't.

Were there connections to the Nazis, yes. Of course.

You're getting there, now watch again and see what else you missed. ;)
 
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You don't get it. Star Wars was never supposed to be overtly political.
Politics, especially the machinations that Palpatine employs to rise from Senator to Emperor, are a major aspect of the story of Episodes I-III, so that statement is literally objectively false.

The dissolution of the Senate occurs even as an event under discussion in Episode IV, the very first film. Fear and the tactics of strongmen and warlords are explicitly referenced as tools that the Empire will be using in its effort to maintain control in the resulting power vacuum. The novelization of the original film opened with a prologue about Palpatine's rise to power.

Politics has overtly and explicitly been a central element of the franchise since before the first film was released and ever since.

On the other hand, if you're somehow trying to say that any connection to the real world is wholly unintended, then that's wrong too. Others have raised points I won't repeat, except as addressed in the quoted matter below. But there's also the eerie parallel between what was going on in the movie theater with respect to how Palpatine was taking over the Republic by suspending normal order during a period of war and the ways in which civil rights were being thrown under the bus during the early part of the War on Terror.

Here's Lucas in his own words about this:

Lucas said he patterned his story after historical transformations from freedom to fascism, never figuring when he started his prequel trilogy in the late 1990s that current events might parallel his space fantasy.
"As you go through history, I didn't think it was going to get quite this close. So it's just one of those recurring things," Lucas said at a Cannes news conference. "I hope this doesn't come true in our country.

"Maybe the film will waken people to the situation," Lucas joked.

That comment echoes Moore's rhetoric at Cannes last year, when his anti-Bush documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" won the festival's top honor.

Unlike Moore, whose Cannes visit came off like an anybody-but-Bush campaign stop, Lucas never mentioned the president by name but was eager to speak his mind on U.S. policy in Iraq, careful again to note that he created the story long before the Bush-led occupation there.

"When I wrote it, Iraq didn't exist," Lucas said, laughing.

"We were just funding Saddam Hussein and giving him weapons of mass destruction. We didn't think of him as an enemy at that time. We were going after Iran and using him as our surrogate, just as we were doing in Vietnam. ... The parallels between what we did in Vietnam and what we're doing in Iraq now are unbelievable."

The prequel trilogy is based on a back-story outline Lucas created in the mid-1970s for the original three "Star Wars" movies, so the themes percolated out of the Vietnam War and the Nixon-Watergate era, he said.

Lucas began researching how democracies can turn into dictatorships with full consent of the electorate.

In ancient Rome, "why did the senate after killing Caesar turn around and give the government to his nephew?" Lucas said. "Why did France after they got rid of the king and that whole system turn around and give it to Napoleon? It's the same thing with Germany and Hitler.

"You sort of see these recurring themes where a democracy turns itself into a dictatorship, and it always seems to happen kind of in the same way, with the same kinds of issues, and threats from the outside, needing more control. A democratic body, a senate, not being able to function properly because everybody's squabbling, there's corruption."​

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sith-invites-bush-comparisons/2/
That's page 2 of:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sith-invites-bush-comparisons/

From page 1:

Cannes audiences made blunt comparisons between "Revenge of the Sith," the story of Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side and the rise of an emperor through warmongering, to President Bush's war on terrorism and the invasion of Iraq.

Two lines from the movie especially resonated:

"This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause," bemoans Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman) as the galactic Senate cheers dictator-in-waiting Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) while he announces a crusade against the Jedi.

"If you're not with me, then you're my enemy," Hayden Christensen's Anakin (soon to become villain Darth Vader) tells former mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor). The line echoes Mr. Bush's international ultimatum after the Sept. 11 attacks, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."​

So, yeah, not only is it supposed to be political, but also there's a definite deliberate intention that it exhibit both commonly recurring themes in history and a resemblance to recent periods in a way that's applicable to contemporary situations, of which in fact it happens to be shockingly prescient.

Your statement is therefore wrong any way you read it.
 
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I never understood why men would prefer action movies with half naked men... Isn't having a woman to look at better, especially since you're trying to show your masculinity?
 
I never understood why men would prefer action movies with half naked men... Isn't having a woman to look at better, especially since you're trying to show your masculinity?

Allow me to provide the stock answer: Because Star Wars is supposed to be like the traditional tales from days of ye old. Like Greek tragedies, and European folklore!

You know...Which were like that in the first place because, whilst women were preferably good looking and present just for procreation purposes, they were also considered literally akin to beasts. Leading to a large portion of ‘real men’ preferring to only be around each other, and fuck teenage boys.

(Not ‘be fucked’ mind. That was just gross.)

And centuries later, here we are. Ignorantly trying to just regurgitate the same old shit, instead of using them as pieces of history to be analysed and learned from. Because...

*closes eyes, and exhales cigarette smoke*

....those stories were classics for a reason, and they just don’t make ‘em like they used to.
 
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It's easy when you don't limit your sources of information to those that only agree with your already drawn conclusion. Your posts are quite similar to a Creationist ignoring all evidence of evolution and using the pitiful scraps that they call "evidence". You're only looking at what you want to see and ignoring everything else despite the overwhelming evidence that you're wrong. It's cultlike thinking.

You'd think such an intelligent man would recognise signs of confirmation bias.
 
I hardly doubt that. Kathleen Kennedy wears the pants over there. Any male POV particularly white, would fall on deaf and angry ears.
JJ Abrams - White male
Gareth Edwards - White male
Rian Johnson - White male
Phil Lord & Christopher Miller (fired) - White males
Ron Howard - White male
James Mangold - White male
Dave Filoni - White male
Lawrence & Jonathan Kasdan - White males
Michael Arndt - White male
Chris Terrio - White male

A GOP rally inside a Cracker Barrel at the Daytona 500 featuring a pre-race concert by Rascal Flatts isn't as white and male as that lineup.

Yeah, the age of the white man is really on the decline there. FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES LEST YOU BE CRUSHED BY THE VAGENDA!!!

If she's ignoring them all, I'm not sure how anything is getting done, 'cause that's all their writers and directors and their showrunner.
Forgive me. Alpha type males..beta's are capable of knowing their place around Queen mother. Much like Poe and Holdo. I picture Kennedy's direction like that.
So what would you call a snowflake who is so delicate that he gets triggered by the mere thought of a woman being in charge of something he has no involvement in, and has to run for his safe space in mommy's arms so she can tell him he's big and powerful boy, sorry, MAN'S MAN, who will grow up to be the undisputed master of his dojo one day?

A Theta Male? No, that's too high. A Mu Male. Yeah, that's the ticket. Muv along, mu boy.

Wait, where exactly was the problem with that?
IDK..what was the significance of making that a prominent role in the story? Did it help on Canto? Did it help with the FO? I don't see why it was necessary.
The question was in regards to what do you think was wrong with Lando's pansexuality in Solo, and you responded by naming Canto Bight and the First Order, neither of which are featured in that movie. Did you even see the goddamn film you're whining about?

Are you another one like Kane_Aluminum who doesn't even care about the franchise but just wants to jump on its effort to be more inclusive in casting and characterization because you're a bigot obsessed about his supposed loss of status in the world, and blaming women or minorities or gays for holding you back? Get a life. Or don't. I don't give a fuck. Just get lost.
 
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