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Disney Scraps Plans For Further Star Wars Storys

Well, I mean, that's what I think the UK is is a bastion of whiteness ;)

The thing is, the complaint is the First Order are clearly a political statement being all white guys in Nazi uniforms holding Nuremburg esque rallies. However the Empire it is based on and which is exactly the same is somehow simply because it was filmed in the UK?
 
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The thing is, the complaint is the First Order are clearly a political statement being all white guys in Nazi uniforms holding Nuremburg esque rallies. However the Empire it is based on and which is exactly the same is somehow simply because it was filmed in the UK?

I prefers the empire multiracial just xenophobic to aliens. A humans only policy. While the rebellion should also be multiracial and multispecies. To date, the presentation is white space Nazis bad, minorities with a few aliens here and there led by strong white women good. This dichotomy smacks of antiwhite racism and anti white male, and the white guilt mentality of its writers and producers out in holly-mental case-wood. Given the US population is 65% White, this strategy seems a bit wrong and ignorant on the face of it. Not to mention a bad business choice governed by social justice ideology.
 
I prefers the empire multiracial just xenophobic to aliens. A humans only policy. While the rebellion should also be multiracial and multispecies. To date, the presentation is white space Nazis bad, minorities with a few aliens here and there led by strong white women good. This dichotomy smacks of antiwhite racism and anti white male, and the white guilt mentality of its writers and producers out in holly-mental case-wood. Given the US population is 65% White, this strategy seems a bit wrong and ignorant on the face of it. Not to mention a bad business choice governed by social justice ideology.

Heaven forbid conscience should overrule profit or art should have something to say about the real world.
 
Heaven forbid conscience should overrule profit or art should have something to say about the real world.
Not when it's presented like that and attacks a segment of the populace who view the product. Then when complained about, they get further attacks. That's not good business. If Lucas film wants to get smart, stop the social media attacks on disgruntled fans. That would help. And snarky condescending articles by Disney sicofants should also cease. Its only dividing fans even more, over childish and ignorant identity political views.
 
I prefers the empire multiracial just xenophobic to aliens. A humans only policy. While the rebellion should also be multiracial and multispecies. To date, the presentation is white space Nazis bad, minorities with a few aliens here and there led by strong white women good. This dichotomy smacks of antiwhite racism and anti white male, and the white guilt mentality of its writers and producers out in holly-mental case-wood. Given the US population is 65% White, this strategy seems a bit wrong and ignorant on the face of it. Not to mention a bad business choice governed by social justice ideology.
No, it really doesn't.

Furthermore, if Lucasfilm is to stop "attacking" disgruntled fans but those disgruntled fans are basing their opinions on ignorant viewpoints, why should they stop? Would not the dialog be better served by calling out viewpoints that are ignorant? Isn't that part of what media is used for?

Instead of insisting that is it anti-white male (I'm hard pressed to believe that argument given the mentor figures) perhaps it it simply expanding what is heroic in this presentation. To me, it is ignorant to insist that increasing the number of female heroes (OT only had one) or other races is somehow harmful to Star Wars.
 
One stand alone story that I would like to see them film is Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Maybe not exactly like the novel right down to the last detail, but mostly the same story.

When the franchise made it that Darth Vader was Luke's father, I was rather....lukewarm to that, at best. When they made Luke and Leia brother and sister? That was too much. Seemed very contrived.
 
Not when it's presented like that and attacks a segment of the populace who view the product. Then when complained about, they get further attacks. That's not good business. If Lucas film wants to get smart, stop the social media attacks on disgruntled fans. That would help. And snarky condescending articles by Disney sicofants should also cease. Its only dividing fans even more, over childish and ignorant identity political views.

Nah, not really.

If TLJ had failed I might think you had a point.

It was one of the most successful films of all time and the fanbase really isn't divided. Funnily enough I'm a white male, but I'm mature enough to grasp the implications of that without having a tantrum and abusing people every time someone tries to redress the balance.

Happily given the astronomic success of TLJ it seems the majority agree. That Solo, a film focusing on a known white male character, failed is not indicative of any failings on the part of the previous massively successful movies.
 
I prefers the empire multiracial just xenophobic to aliens. A humans only policy. While the rebellion should also be multiracial and multispecies.

That's nice. I am sure there is a reserved seat waiting for you at the next Star Wars story prep/round table discussion at Lucasfilm.
 
If TLJ had failed

It did fail.

It failed in the same reason The Phantom Menace failed. Not so much financially but by poisoning the goodwill of the fanbase. That has a delayed reaction of causing people to feel they were betrayed and stay home for future movies.

Happily given the astronomic success of TLJ it seems the majority agree. That Solo, a film focusing on a known white male character, failed is not indicative of any failings on the part of the previous massively successful movies.

None of this is consistent with the facts. You're living in a dreamworld.

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That's not a majority.
 
It did fail.

It failed in the same reason The Phantom Menace failed. Not so much financially but by poisoning the goodwill of the fanbase. That has a delayed reaction of causing people to feel they were betrayed and stay home for future movies.
Chuckle. I think the best reply to this nonsensical post is one that you may be familiar with:

None of this is consistent with the facts. You're living in a dreamworld
 
Why then do the Empire not include a single alien or female

You don't get it. Star Wars was never supposed to be overtly political. Were there connections to the Nazis, yes. Of course. Was it means for people to leave the theater saying the film was "woke" and praising it for bashing cisnormies ala Shape of Water or Black Panther? No. Movies back then were meant, first and foremost, to entertain, not preach. The only moralizing Star Wars really pushed was the simplest of good and evil concepts and the simplest coming-of-age believe-in-yourself mantras ala Dumbo. No identity politics.

Oh and EDIT because I'm a bit bemused...what does filming in the uk have to do with it?

Demographics. The UK in the 70s wasn't exactly a melting pot of diversity. Go watch some old Dr. Whos and see how many minorities are playing humanoid aliens on the show.
 
In what way? I posted a screenshot and all you've got are ad homs.
The only fact you post is one that supports your subjective viewpoint, albeit insufficiently. I don't feel a particular need to take your posts on this subject seriously.
 
The only fact you post is one that supports your subjective viewpoint, albeit insufficiently. I don't feel a particular need to take your posts on this subject seriously.

How is my viewpoint any less subjective than yours? You're looking back 40 years and presuming artistic intent where there was none. Look, if you want to read the OT that way, that's your choice, but it's what you bring to the table, not George Lucas and company.
 
How is my viewpoint any less subjective than yours? You're looking back 40 years and presuming artistic intent where there was none. Look, if you want to read the OT that way, that's your choice, but it's what you bring to the table, not George Lucas and company.
Where am I presuming artistic intent?
I am (gently) mocking the post where you assume that the well of fandom is POISONED by the audience reaction to The Last Jedi.
I am sure you have a wealth of facts to support your assertion. :)
 
It did fail.

It failed in the same reason The Phantom Menace failed. Not so much financially but by poisoning the goodwill of the fanbase. That has a delayed reaction of causing people to feel they were betrayed and stay home for future movies.



None of this is consistent with the facts. You're living in a dreamworld.

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That's not a majority.
All that proves is that a bunch of losers used online voting to attack a movie they didn't like for stupid reasons. Something they openly admitted to doing and bragged about it. It's not proof of how mass audiences felt, it's proof that these people have no lives.
 
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It was successful. And one poll 198,000 votes really doesn't mean shit when 67.6 million tickets were sold in the U.S. alone. We aren't going to know the full damage of this "backlash" until Episode IX comes out.
If Episode IX does well, some folks will just claim it proves that Rian Johnson is toxic and the next trilogy should be taken away from him.

ALL OF THESE ARGUMENTS ARE COUNTER - FACTUAL.... and whatever exists in the real world will be disregarded if it doesn't fit.
 
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