Is the woman shown below canonically established as Trill, or might she be Kriosian? Sorry if this has been asked and answered already on one of the hundred-page threads.
Tatooed female on Qo'noS
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Yes but
1. Trill and Kriosians have the same markings (TNG The Perfect Mate, ENT Precious Cargo)
2. That woman is not the Section 31 operative seen in the deleted scene
3. Krios is established as a Klingon protectorate/subject world in (TNG The Mind's Eye)
No they don't, Kriosians spots start at the top of the forehead, run down the temples and then to the back of the neck where they join up. Trill spots continue down the neck separately and end at the feet. The woman on Discovery had Trill spots, not Kriosian.
That’s an awesome connection to Trek history (er future? Whatever lol). Much as I’d love this to be the case I think Krios is too much of a deep cut on memory alpha even for the DSC writers (who seem to like dropping in things they’ve seen on memory alpha). I’d love you to be right and this actually be a Kriosian, mind you.
If the Klingons can have many different physical types (ranging from human to single ridge to multi ridge to nightmare orc creature from the underworld of Orpheus and Eurydice), then it stands to reason that Kriosians can have different configurations of spots. So it could indeed be a kriosian.
Even though it’s totally a trill because DSC.
Maybe, but could be if they were different from any version we've ever seen is not the same as "Trill and Kriosians have the same markings".
There are aliens who look just like humans with no markings at all, (e.g Ekosians, Zeonites) so there is no in universe reason why Trills and Kriosians cannot have the same markings.
Well quite, if we are ignoring the simplest explanation, then we have no proof any of the humans in the show are actually humans, and not, say, Sigma Iotians.
The Kriosians could be an early offshoot colony of the unjoined Trill who were later conquered by the Klingons.
Dax's final makeup was even inspired by the Kriosian makeup worn by Famke Janssen:
Although Michael Westmore's alterations to make the Odan headpiece more feminine was as good as all of his work, the writers simply didn't like it. Apparently, after she had put on the Odan forehead appliance, someone looked at Terry Farrell and said to Westmore, "What did you do to her head, she used to be beautiful?" Instead of changing species, as they'd already come to like the idea of an "old man", a person with centuries of experience to guide Sisko, Westmore suggested to "just give her spots like we gave Famke", who played a Kriosian in TNG: "The Perfect Mate". This make-up was used on all Trill afterwards.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jadzia_Dax#Background
Dax's final makeup was even inspired by the Kriosian makeup worn by Famke Janssen:
Although Michael Westmore's alterations to make the Odan headpiece more feminine was as good as all of his work, the writers simply didn't like it. Apparently, after she had put on the Odan forehead appliance, someone looked at Terry Farrell and said to Westmore, "What did you do to her head, she used to be beautiful?" Instead of changing species, as they'd already come to like the idea of an "old man", a person with centuries of experience to guide Sisko, Westmore suggested to "just give her spots like we gave Famke", who played a Kriosian in TNG: "The Perfect Mate". This make-up was used on all Trill afterwards.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jadzia_Dax#Background
Where did you get that Kriosian spots join up around back of the neck? I never noticed that, where did you see that?
In the episode they premiered in, The Perfect Mate.
Fizzbin!
hmmm...I have lots of spots on my skin, but I'm neither Trill nor Famke. they are simply birthmarks.
I can see variety in the Kriosan/Trill spots and Famke might just be a Kriosan whose spots happen to end in the neck area instead of going all the way down, while Tatoo-woman is a Kriosan who has spots that happen to look similar to the Trill.
In the end, it doesn't matter unless Tatoo-woman plays a big part in season 2
I can see variety in the Kriosan/Trill spots and Famke might just be a Kriosan whose spots happen to end in the neck area instead of going all the way down, while Tatoo-woman is a Kriosan who has spots that happen to look similar to the Trill.
In the end, it doesn't matter unless Tatoo-woman plays a big part in season 2
She's a human with a Trill tattoo. Very culturally insensitive to do that.
Judging from the photo, she did become a host for Trill symbiont, however, in circumstances not dissimilar to Riker's. Accounting for her lack of social awareness, she learned what a Trill or a symbiont was only after she did that. She was in very morally confusing situation after that.
I see no evidence to refute any of that.
Judging from the photo, she did become a host for Trill symbiont, however, in circumstances not dissimilar to Riker's. Accounting for her lack of social awareness, she learned what a Trill or a symbiont was only after she did that. She was in very morally confusing situation after that.
I see no evidence to refute any of that.
What isn't ambiguous is the fact that the Kriosians of "Perfect Mate" are not the ones of "Mind's Eye". The former are engaged in a centuries-long struggle for control that clearly involves no Klingons. The Klingon overlords of the latter would have no truck with such, as we see in the latter ep.
We already have to believe in the two different planets named Krios. We might just as well believe in multiple homes for the one spotted species - they sell their own around, after all, and probably would get a good price from those Trill slugs with a preference for thoroughbred hosts...
Timo Saloniemi
We already have to believe in the two different planets named Krios. We might just as well believe in multiple homes for the one spotted species - they sell their own around, after all, and probably would get a good price from those Trill slugs with a preference for thoroughbred hosts...
Timo Saloniemi
The conflict in The Mind's Eye was over a Klingon colony. I don't see what discounts the Kriosians from being the same species as the Kriosians from The Perfect Mate. Their centuries-long war makes me think they're exactly the sort of people who would tell Klingons to go suck an egg.
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