Usually they win;we like happy endings.
But you can't realistically expect to win'em all. Every so often you'll meet an individual/organisation/race that simply outsmarts you, or is stronger, or ….
So I'm curious as to how many episodes there are in each series that show such an occasional loss (and if there are differences regarding this between different series). In this, I don't include longer arcs with temporary setbacks (e.g. losses during the Dominion War) or two-parters in which of course crew home team loses in part 1 as part of the setup. The Eddington/Sisko arc (for example) might be a border case, since Eddington always seems one step ahead, and Sisko eventually only captures him by threat of brute force.
And of course there are other border cases too. For example in Persistence of Vision the Voyager crew manages to fight off the illusions eventually, but they never capture the alien who did this to them. I'd call that a draw at best.
But, all in all, are there series that show outright occasional defeat more often than others? That, perhaps, were less afraid to show 'our team' losing every once in a while?
(Of course I realise that a lot of situations are more complicated than 'winning' or 'losing' but I'm purposely asking it black-and-white to get a general feel of what people think).
But you can't realistically expect to win'em all. Every so often you'll meet an individual/organisation/race that simply outsmarts you, or is stronger, or ….
So I'm curious as to how many episodes there are in each series that show such an occasional loss (and if there are differences regarding this between different series). In this, I don't include longer arcs with temporary setbacks (e.g. losses during the Dominion War) or two-parters in which of course crew home team loses in part 1 as part of the setup. The Eddington/Sisko arc (for example) might be a border case, since Eddington always seems one step ahead, and Sisko eventually only captures him by threat of brute force.
And of course there are other border cases too. For example in Persistence of Vision the Voyager crew manages to fight off the illusions eventually, but they never capture the alien who did this to them. I'd call that a draw at best.
But, all in all, are there series that show outright occasional defeat more often than others? That, perhaps, were less afraid to show 'our team' losing every once in a while?
(Of course I realise that a lot of situations are more complicated than 'winning' or 'losing' but I'm purposely asking it black-and-white to get a general feel of what people think).
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