Klingons appearance - history repeats itself
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Well, I was going to donate to Wigs for Kids, but this sounds more noble.Perhaps the reason the DISCO Klingon's are bald were due to budgetary reasons. They ran out of money for hair! The solution then is simple, we should all agree to keep our hair after we have been to the hairdressers and donate it to CBS. We should keep sending them our hair through the post until they agree to add hair to the Klingon's once again.
After two decades of Klingons on TV, I'm surprised there is any fake hair left in Hollywood.Perhaps the reason the DISCO Klingon's are bald were due to budgetary reasons. They ran out of money for hair! The solution then is simple, we should all agree to keep our hair after we have been to the hairdressers and donate it to CBS. We should keep sending them our hair through the post until they agree to add hair to the Klingon's once again.
I assume they don’t have hair because they wanted the Klingons to look more alien. Which is also why they only tend to speak Klingon instead of English.
It struck me that a good excuse for this could be that the Klingons never looked like they appeared to in Season 1. Instead we were seeing them through the lens of the unreliable narrator of Micheal Burnham, who perceived them as monsters because of her childhood trauma.
Of course, if that were the case, we'd have expected them to go back to "normal" in the last episode - which of course they didn't. And the whole two dicks thing is still within continuity.
Redundant systems have been a part of Klingon anatomy since TNG.
No.
I'm pretty sure Troi or especially Dax would have taken notice of it...
You're thinking about it too literally, but on a thematic level you've got it dead to rights. Highlighting and exaggerating their "Otherness" was indeed a deliberate choice reflective of the story being largely about Burnham struggling with and overcoming deep-seated prejudices of which she is in denial at the outset, and also makes the most out of the Voq/Tyler transformation, which is also central, and of which he also starts off in denial. In this sense, they and we do come to see Klingon as human and human as Klingon in the course of the story. (There are other elements which connect to this theme of friends being revealed as enemies and enemies being revealed as friends, too, including the Mirror Universe subplot.)
Quite so. Specifically, "Ethics":
RUSSELL: Overdesigned...Klingon anatomy. 23 ribs, two livers, eight-chambered heart, double-lined neural pia mater. I've never seen so many unnecessary redundancies in one body.
CRUSHER: Unnecessary? The Klingons refer to it as the brak'lul. Almost every vital function in their bodies has a built-in redundancy in case any primary organ or system fails.
RUSSELL: It's a good design in theory, but in practice, all the extra organs means just that much more can go wrong.
I've been slowly re-watching TNG, and the new light that DSC's revelations cast on Worf's grim insistence in "Justice" that he requires a Klingon mate because he must "restrain [him]self too much" with humans is most illuminating indeed! I'm sure that I'll have another good laugh when I get to DS9's "Looking For Par'mach In All The Wrong Places" where he and Jadzia land themselves in the infirmary as well!
Dax of course no doubt had prior experience with Klingons, both as a man and a woman. I'm sure she knew plenty of tricks.
Was it ever suggested that he and Troi actually "went all the way"? In physical terms, I don't remember more than a tentative kiss or two, but I haven't gotten that far in my re-watch yet; I'm only on the second season. In any case, perhaps a telepathic connection there helped to make up for any physiological...shortcomings? Or perhaps like Jadzia (and Ezri that one time), she was simply adventurous enough (and limber, thanks to all those workouts with Beverly!) to hazard it?
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They probably did, but why would they have occasion to mention it? We're not talking THE ORVILLE here. How often did Trek characters spend a lot of time talking about each other's junk? Although it's fun to imagine Crusher and Troi chatting in Ten-Forward:
"So, you and Worf?"
"Yes."
"I gotta ask: Is it true that Klingon men have two . . . "
"We do not speak of it to others."
Of course, for all we know Trill have two vajayjays.
I dunno. Some things in DIS almost assuredly were not meant to be taken literally in terms of visuals. One example is the weird courtroom scene at the end of BotBS, with the tribunal cloaked in shadow. Another is Ash's flashbacks to the surgery which turved Voq into him. The medical instruments shown were way, way too crude to be believable, considering that level of flawless transformation is well beyond 21st century medicine.
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And, at the risk of venturing into fanfic territory, two penises does not necessarily mean that both have to be engaged at the same time. Redundancy simply means that you have a backup, as needed, so there's no reason that Klingons can't be compatible with Betazoids or Trills or humans.
Now pondering Klingon Viagra ads: "If you're experiencing erections in BOTH penises, report to sickbay immediately."
Now pondering Klingon Viagra ads: "If you're experiencing erections in BOTH penises, report to sickbay immediately."
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And?
They probably did, but why would they have occasion to mention it? We're not talking THE ORVILLE here. How often did Trek characters spend a lot of time talking about each other's junk? Although it's fun to imagine Crusher and Troi chatting in Ten-Forward:
"So, you and Worf?"
"Yes."
"I gotta ask: Is it true that Klingon men have two . . . "
"We do not speak of it to others."
It seems that enlightened humans of the future wouldn't have our current socio-cultural hangups about openly discussing such matters.
As for redundant biological functions not being engaged simultaneously, we saw in the STDsc episode on Q'onoS that both, um, "units" are in use at the same time for expelling urine.
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What makes you think they didn’t?
If they were appearing on broadcast television in the 1980s-90s, they would. In front of the camera, anyway. Any such exchange would probably have been subject to censorship anyway, even if it had been filmed.
Exactly. Maybe he simply drank so much without pause that he filled up both bladders, and couldn't hold any of it any longer. In other words, maybe right up to the point when he staggered into that alley, he had the option of emptying only one barrel, so to speak, but he waited too long and was desperate. (I certainly know I've had to pee so badly when drunk that I wished I had a second bladder!) Or maybe in that moment he just didn't feel like "restraining himself." Or maybe he was drinking to begin with because he was depressed over having congenitally poor sphincter control and being teased about it by his buddies. Maybe a lot of things.But that Klingon was supposedly drunk.
We know how humans lose control of certain bodily functions when they're drunk....
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At the risk of following into that shadowed realm, medically speaking, there should be no compatibility problem should both be engaged anyway.
I would guess that depends upon the orientation of them. Though the urine streams in the season finale suggest they're arranged on on top of the other rather close together, which would be...errm...compatible with human biology.
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