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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Well, as far as what they "have" to do they can Star Trek into a monthly sitcom set in Kentucky as far as their "rights" are concerned.

But if they want to keep a fruitful connection to their fandom, they HAVE to step in and clear that shit up a bit. Soon.
Why? It's not really in the fan's purview to know this stuff. We are consumers. I don't need to know who own's the restaurant I'm eating in or the chef's shoe size. I'm there for the food.
 
Eaves seems to be somewhat cool with that. He has talked a lot about his ENT designs on Trekyards, and almost all of them were changed somewhat. He actually seems to somewhat encourage them to fiddle with his designs, since Eaves usually does not do full orthos. He does one or two angles and lets the vfx team fill in the blanks.

Yeah people seem to think that this is an abberation, but it's a natural part of the process from concept to model.
 
I'm not prone to defending many of DSC's production design choices but Eaves' design for the Enterprise is closer to the final onscreen product than what Doug Drexler originally wanted to do with the NX-01 on Enterprise. He initially wanted to use a Daedalus-style ship with a spherical primary hull and even devised a concept that used a ring drive system but Rick Berman and the studio demanded and required that the 22nd century ship have a saucer section and two nacelles just like the TOS vessel.
 
That's inconceivable to me, unless a whole host of corporate entertainment lawyers who specialize in this stuff were all completely incompetent at their jobs.
That would surprise you why?

Correct. They did. They own Star Trek. I don't think they got into specifics of who owned what becasue it wasn't relevant but collectively they owned it all.
That's exactly my point: they COLLECTIVELY own it all. They just didn't go into details of how it broke down into who individually owned what, and I believe the reason for that is they don't actually know.
 
Honestly I think the whole 25% design thing is just for merchandising. They wanted them to design a new Enterprise that was legally distinct so they could sell it as it's own thing.

Not because they didn't have the rights to it.

It's the same reason the DSC delta insignia has the bifurcation. It's to sell more merchandise and make the Discovery's insignia distinctly the show's. It's annoying as hell but it's also elegantly brilliant. Capitalism at its finest.

Tweak something ever so slightly so that you can repackage it as a new product. Sell lots of it because it's "new" and make everyone at the studio happy. From a business perspective it's a no-brainer even if we find it worthy of an eyeroll and facepalm.
 
It's the same reason the DSC delta insignia has the bifurcation. It's to sell more merchandise and make the Discovery's insignia distinctly the show's. It's annoying as hell but it's also elegantly brilliant. Capitalism at its finest.

Tweak something ever so slightly so that you can repackage it as a new product. Sell lots of it because it's "new" and make everyone at the studio happy. From a business perspective it's a no-brainer even if we find it worthy of an eyeroll and facepalm.
This sounds the most correct.
 
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That's inconceivable to me, unless a whole host of corporate entertainment lawyers who specialize in this stuff were all completely incompetent at their jobs.
That would surprise you why?
In the general sense, it would surprise me because it's wildly unlikely. Plenty of people are good at those kinds of jobs, and major entertainment conglomerates hire such people.

In the more specific sense, because if it were so, it wouldn't just affect Star Trek. Viacom owned, and the split divided up, tons of valuable IP content. If the terms of the split weren't hashed out in sufficient detail for the successor companies to go about their business without stepping on one another's toes, there would have been a whole string of assorted lawsuits over the past dozen years... and that simply hasn't happened.
 
Why? It's not really in the fan's purview to know this stuff. We are consumers. I don't need to know who own's the restaurant I'm eating in or the chef's shoe size. I'm there for the food.

I'm one of the people that is actually interested in how the sausage is made, and make part of my decision of buying it depend upon it...
 
I'm one of the people that is actually interested in how the sausage is made, and make part of my decision of buying it depend upon it...
Well I'm pretty sure it's not made by child labor and financed with blood diamonds.
Seriously, how can some legal mumbo jumbo impact one's enjoyment of a TV show? It comes across as being like the obsession we have with celebrities private lives.
 
I don't care if CBS and Paramount fight Thunderdome-style behind the scenes to settle legalities of IP ownership. Just give us a good show.

The studio could be getting along with its branches harmoniously and still put out pure garbage. I just want a quality series and the lawyers can do whatever they need to do to keep CBS and Paramount from going to war with one another.
 
Well I'm pretty sure it's not made by child labor and financed with blood diamonds.
Seriously, how can some legal mumbo jumbo impact one's enjoyment of a TV show? It comes across as being like the obsession we have with celebrities private lives.

Dude. I'm a guy that can tell the 4 foot and the 6 foot studio model of the Enterprise-D apart.
I'm definitely obsessed with Star Trek.

In this special instance, it would be a case where I would give points for trying.
If I know they can't legally do something - tell new stories in the original Star Trek universe - and try anyway because they do it out of a passion - one that obsessive me shares with them - I'd give them much more slack for differences and mistakes. If it comes to light it's because some important producers are greedy assholes that try to swindle Matt Jeffries progenies out of a few royalties - it makes me like them much less, and also EXPECT way less of them in the future - which could turn me off of the show very fast, which also won't bode well with future me paying for DIS blu-rays, merchandise or literally anything DIS-related...
 
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Dude. I'm a guy that can tell the 4 foot and the 6 foot model of the Enterprise-D apart.
I'm definitely obsessed with Star Trek.

In this special instance, it would be a case where I would give points for trying.
If I know they can't legally do something - tell new stories in the original Star Trek universe - and try anyway because they do it out of a passion - one that obsessive me shares with them - I'd give them much more slack for differences and mistakes. If it comes to light it's because some important producers are greedy assholes that try to swindle Matt Jeffries progenies out of a few royalties - it makes me like them much less, and also EXPECT way less of them in the future - which could turn me off of the show very fast, which also won't bode well with future me paying for DIS blu-rays, merchandise or literally anything DIS-related...
Well that kind of falls in the Blood Diamonds territory. I'm I doubt such an edict would come from a producer. Sound more like a corporate level call. Then again Trek's no stranger to greed at the Producer level. (See Roddenberry, Gene and Courage, Alexander)
 
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