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GreenDragonKnight

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I'm about halfway through the series and oh my God oh...! I just don't know what to say. "Weird" doesn't even begin to describe it. I mean, all of David Lynch's stuff is bizarre; but he has absolutely outdone himself with this one.
However, I have got to ask (and please don't worry about spoilers in my case; I couldn't care less): does the Got a Light episode (episode 8) have anything to do with the rest of the series? :alienblush:
 
Well, clearly it does. But there are no more episodes on that level in the remainder of the season, and there really isn't any further explication or fleshing out of the ideas presented visually in the episode, and the identity of the girl is not confirmed except in a book.

Sarah Palmer
 
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I'm about halfway through the series and oh my God oh...! I just don't know what to say. "Weird" doesn't even begin to describe it. I mean, all of David Lynch's stuff is bizarre; but he has absolutely outdone himself with this one.
However, I have got to ask (and please don't worry about spoilers in my case; I couldn't care less): does the Got a Light episode (episode 8) have anything to do with the rest of the series? :alienblush:

That episode is basically explaining the set-up of the entire series:

The Atomic Bomb testing back then apparently is what gets the attention of the beings in the Black Lodge, and a powerful being called Judy takes advantage of the barriers between the worlds being weakened to create Killer BOB and unleash him on our world. The Fireman/Giant and the Flapper Woman decide to create Laura Palmer to somehow balance out BOB. Judy intervenes by sending her minions, the "Got a Light" guys (Woodsmen) to a town to weaken the populace so Judy herself can enter our world by infecting the woman chosen as the mother of Laura Palmer. That girl who gets the frog thing in her mouth is young Sarah Palmer, and the creature is Judy.
 
Hiya folks. Sorry it took me so long to get back here, I've just been very busy the past few days. Besides, I decided that i'd watch the rest of the series before I said any thing else, and I just finished it last night, and here's my lowdown:

The good: in a word, the setting. Lynch did an absolutely superb job of blending past and present. On the one hand, you've got plenty of i-phones but at the same time you've got a lot of those old-fashioned rotary phones and even some of those early cell-phones, or mobile telephones as they were once called, that were carried in brief cases. So, it looks like the 80s, the 90s, the 20-teens, the 40s, the you-name-it, all seamlessly blended. The result is a world with an ethereal, utterly timeless feel, which I think is wonderful.

The bad: for every one question it answers, it asks 10 more, and of those 10, it leaves at least 9 unanswered, and, as a result, the end leaves you hanging. While the way the original series ended had everyone scratching their heads, the same is true here, only to a far greater degree, and so there's no sense of satisfaction or closure, only a sense of what the...?!?
Well, that's how I experienced it, anyway.

The ugly: in a word, Audrey!!! OMG what went so wrong?!?! I mean in the original, she was so gorgeous you couldn't believe it; now, she's uglier than a bucket full of you-know-what. And it wasn't just getting older. Monica Bellucci (who I was pleasantly surprised to see here) is still, while I know she's close to 50 now, she is still knock-your-socks-off gorgeous; but Sherilyn... well, to say she hasn't aged well is putting it nicely. Very nicely.
 
The ugly: in a word, Audrey!!! OMG what went so wrong?!?! I mean in the original, she was so gorgeous you couldn't believe it; now, she's uglier than a bucket full of you-know-what. And it wasn't just getting older. Monica Bellucci (who I was pleasantly surprised to see here) is still, while I know she's close to 50 now, she is still knock-your-socks-off gorgeous; but Sherilyn... well, to say she hasn't aged well is putting it nicely. Very nicely.

You obviously haven't kept up with how Lara Flynn Boyle is doing these days...
 
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Episode 8 is about the birth of Bob.

My take on the series is that it's a satire on the reception of the original Twin Peaks.

For 25 years, expectations, hype and fan theories abounded. Twin Peaks became bigger in the imagination of the fans than it ever was on the screen. At its root though, and this should not be considered a radical statement since the original series pointed this out with Invitation To Love, the original series was a soap opera. Just one with very high art value. The first two thirds of the series seem designed to troll and frustrate specifically the fans who wanted more of the melodrama and had a head full of theories they were waiting to see validated.

The scenes from the town of Twin Peaks strip away the melodrama and show the characters just having lived for 25 years as normal people. All the scenes in Twin Peaks have natural lighting, nobody is secretly sneaking off or plotting to burn anything down, getting rescued at the last minute. Outside the town of Twin Peaks, there's Dougie. Also blatantly meant to troll the fans. You watch the show thinking, any minute now, Coop will snap out of it and he just...keeps...being...DOUGIE! But what is Dougie doing? He wanders around cluelessly, follows vague hints from supernatural helpers, and everything magically works out for him. Dougie IS Coop, without the personality and style.

The other element with Anticoop gets more to Lynchianisms and the evil parts of human nature.

The last few episodes go in the other direction in that they directly INDULGE fan fantasies. Everyone comes together at the end, Truman realizes Anticoop is not the real Coop because he doesn't want coffee, Lucy takes the killing shot, Anticoop dies, Bob dies. Then Cooper realizes something...isn't...quite right, and they step into indulging the fan fantasy of Coop and Diane getting together, AND the fan fantasy of Coop going back in time and rescuing Laura. Both endings disappear as if a dream, and they build up to the long awaited reunion of mother and daughter. But when Cooper and Laura get to Twin Peaks, it's the real life Twin Peaks, and the door is answered by the woman who lives at Sarah Palmer's house in real life. Almost like, the wish fulfillment endings of the fans are dreams that can't quite break their way into reality.
 
Oh dear, you're in for an unpleasant surprise...
My God, what did she do to her lips, and why??? Nikki Cox did the same thing - perfectly beautiful faces, and they decided they needed bigger, grosser lips. I don't get it.
 
I feel like no matter how often Lynch revisists Twin Peaks it will ALWAYS end on a cliffhanger. The show is, at heart, a take on the soap opera and the idea of the never ending story is baked into its DNA.
 
Another theory is that

the entirety of the Return was just a dream Cooper was having in the Black Lodge, and he's been having variants of this dream for the last 25 years. That's why the last scene is Laura whispering something to Cooper that's clearly scaring him. It's her saying "I'm sorry, but you were just dreaming and we're still stuck here."
 
Sure why not.
Madchen Amick is still gorgeous!
And Peggy Lipton is still my sweet Julie Barnes.
 
So, seminal director making a follow up to one of the most talked about and visionary shows in modern times.

But all we've got is "she's aged well but look at the state of her"?
 
So, seminal director making a follow up to one of the most talked about and visionary shows in modern times.

But all we've got is "she's aged well but look at the state of her"?

Hey, I tried to put out some meaningful stuff...
 
My take on the series is that it's a satire on the reception of the original Twin Peaks.

I read that last scene
as a pretty direct rebuke (by Lynch standards) to those who wanted him to deliver more of the same from 25 years ago. The Palmer house isn't what it was -- you can't go home again -- and then Cooper asks, "What year is it?" before the lights go out, possibly for the last time.

I laughed out loud. If you look at it that way, it's a tremendous punchline to the whole thing.
 
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