Best and Worst Voyager villain
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Best - Henry Starling
Worst - The Malon
Worst - The Malon
Best: The Hirogen
Second best: Seska
Third best: The Borg + The Borg Queen
Worst: The Mallon (were they an enemy in the first place?)
Second worst: the Kazon
Third worst: any nebulae that didn't have coffee in them ...
Second best: Seska
Third best: The Borg + The Borg Queen
Worst: The Mallon (were they an enemy in the first place?)
Second worst: the Kazon
Third worst: any nebulae that didn't have coffee in them ...
I think the Mallons were sorta friendlies. I heard someone once say "Star Trek doesn't really have villains, only antagonists."
A Good Villain:
I thought the Vidiians were pretty interesting...and frightening.
Overrated Villain:
Annorax(sorry. He's okay, even good, just overrated)
Underrated Villain:
The scientists in "Scientific Method"
A bad Villain:
The "Spirit Folk" mob
A Good Villain:
I thought the Vidiians were pretty interesting...and frightening.
Overrated Villain:
Annorax(sorry. He's okay, even good, just overrated)
Underrated Villain:
The scientists in "Scientific Method"
A bad Villain:
The "Spirit Folk" mob
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My least favorite recurring enemy is the Kazon.
My favorite new villain introduced in VOY is 8472, closely followed by the Hirogen.
...otherwise the Borg. And as an individual (as opposed to an entire species): Seska
My favorite new villain introduced in VOY is 8472, closely followed by the Hirogen.
...otherwise the Borg. And as an individual (as opposed to an entire species): Seska
Not my least fav but I agree they were totally incompetent!
Best villain: Henry Starling
Second best: Seska and Culluh (what a charming couple).
A special reward for The Clown. Brilliant!
Least favorite: The gang of four (Berman, Braga, Jeri Taylor and Fuller).
I never really liked the Borg Queen. Definitely not in "First Contact" when she was whimping around Picard like a lovesick schoolgirl and not in Voyager either.
Second best: Seska and Culluh (what a charming couple).
A special reward for The Clown. Brilliant!
Least favorite: The gang of four (Berman, Braga, Jeri Taylor and Fuller).
I never really liked the Borg Queen. Definitely not in "First Contact" when she was whimping around Picard like a lovesick schoolgirl and not in Voyager either.
Best villain: Henry Starling
Second best: Seska and Culluh (what a charming couple).
A special reward for The Clown. Brilliant!
Least favorite: The gang of four (Berman, Braga, Jeri Taylor and Fuller).
I never really liked the Borg Queen. Definitely not in "First Contact" when she was whimping around Picard like a lovesick schoolgirl and not in Voyager either.
Yes, the Clown was absolutely brilliant, plus that's one hell of an actor who played his role!
Yes. I totally agree!
Another reason why I like The Clown is that he looks like Iron Maiden singer Bruce Dickinson both in looks and manners!
Okay, I forgot about the Clown too, and he was good, but not the best. Species 8472 were frightening. The Vidiians were creepy. Borg were overused, though I thought Borg Queen was a good antagonist to Janeway. The Kazon never made sense to me, they had ships but were desert dwellers that couldn't obtain water? Why couldn't they take out the Caretaker and kill off the Ocampa from space? I don't get why Henry Starling was a good villain, can someone explain this to me?
This thread is making me realize VOYAGER had some of the most original, varied, and memorable villains of any Star Trek series.
This thread is making me realize VOYAGER had some of the most original, varied, and memorable villains of any Star Trek series.
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To me, the best Voyager villains or I should say I found very interesting were the Vidiians. These guys had a bad case of flesh eating bacteria and were scourging the universe for spare humanoid parts. Very interesting, but Voyager didn't know what they had and left them cold.
The worst villains were the Borg, TNG has made those aliens the big dawg of the universe and were top of the hill. Voyager couldn't draw up anything which could top TNG stories and had them on for menial plotlines on sweeps week. At least we found out the Borg can make deals with the greatest SJW Star Trek character before the term was even invented.
As dumbfounding as I thought it was when I saw it, it can't top an alien Doctor from the 22nd Century can figure a way to cure himself from becoming a Borg. Something the doctors from the Voyager timeline are still scratching their heads like apes to figure out.
The worst villains were the Borg, TNG has made those aliens the big dawg of the universe and were top of the hill. Voyager couldn't draw up anything which could top TNG stories and had them on for menial plotlines on sweeps week. At least we found out the Borg can make deals with the greatest SJW Star Trek character before the term was even invented.
As dumbfounding as I thought it was when I saw it, it can't top an alien Doctor from the 22nd Century can figure a way to cure himself from becoming a Borg. Something the doctors from the Voyager timeline are still scratching their heads like apes to figure out.
Best: Scorpion Borg
Worst: Dark Frontier and after Borg
Worst: Dark Frontier and after Borg
Best individual: Seska
Best species: tie between the Vidiians and Hirogen
Worst individual: Kes from "FURY"
Worst species: Malon
Seska: what better villain than it be one of your own? She had knowledge of Cardassian, Maquis, and Starfleet tactics, and knew Chakotay really, really well. "MANEUVERS" and "WORST CASE SCENARIO" used her character the best.
Vidiians: creepy as hell, they were a horror idea taken to the next level. But the thing that makes them excellent villains is you can feel sympathy for what they are going through. Plus, how easily WE can turn into exactly them and what they do given the same situation.
Hirogen: I love their entire concept. Nomadic and dangerous. Just simple hunters who take that and make it almost a religion. And they were quite imposing, particularly when you had people like Tony Todd play one. And other than the Borg, they were the only race Voyager can legitimately encounter throughout its journey without some weird McGuffin having to explain their presence.
Kes from "FURY": I just could not buy her anger and wanting to destroy the ship and crew. It seemed so off and it was the biggest character assassination the series ever did.
Malon: garbage men gone bad. That's essentially what they are, and they were as ridiculous as the premise sounds. Oddly, the episodes that feature them... "NIGHT", "EXTREME RISK", "JUGGERNAUT"... are all really good episodes. But they are good in spite of their presence, not because of it.
Best species: tie between the Vidiians and Hirogen
Worst individual: Kes from "FURY"
Worst species: Malon
Seska: what better villain than it be one of your own? She had knowledge of Cardassian, Maquis, and Starfleet tactics, and knew Chakotay really, really well. "MANEUVERS" and "WORST CASE SCENARIO" used her character the best.
Vidiians: creepy as hell, they were a horror idea taken to the next level. But the thing that makes them excellent villains is you can feel sympathy for what they are going through. Plus, how easily WE can turn into exactly them and what they do given the same situation.
Hirogen: I love their entire concept. Nomadic and dangerous. Just simple hunters who take that and make it almost a religion. And they were quite imposing, particularly when you had people like Tony Todd play one. And other than the Borg, they were the only race Voyager can legitimately encounter throughout its journey without some weird McGuffin having to explain their presence.
Kes from "FURY": I just could not buy her anger and wanting to destroy the ship and crew. It seemed so off and it was the biggest character assassination the series ever did.
Malon: garbage men gone bad. That's essentially what they are, and they were as ridiculous as the premise sounds. Oddly, the episodes that feature them... "NIGHT", "EXTREME RISK", "JUGGERNAUT"... are all really good episodes. But they are good in spite of their presence, not because of it.
I think it was just the Kazon tribe seen in Caretaker that wanted the water. I don't remember what they were called, but they were mining the desert planet and had no transporter technology.
The Ogla.
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