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ReBoot: The Guardian Code (Lyoko)

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Is anyone familiar with the absolutely awesome CGI cartoon "ReBoot" from the late 90's?

They're making a god-awful reboot of it that everyone hates.
 
Yep, big fan of the first three seasons here (still haven't seen the fourth). (Here's an old thread regarding the show's DVD release.) And I agree, this... er, ReBoot reboot show, which, so far as I can tell, has none of the original team behind it, looks like ass:

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A few classic references aside, it looks and feels far more like a Tron: Legacy-based show than ReBoot.
 
Oh my cock. That looks absolutely dreadful. How they hell can someone take an imaginative and inventive world that ReBoot created and ruin in thusly? I mean, I'm not trying to be the usual critic who automatically takes an instant hatred to remakes/reboots and constantly shits on it, but this looks awful and aside from Megabyte being the villain has nothing to do with the show at all.

I mean, come on, ReBoot was a show which excelled greatly at world-building. Mainframe was a fun little world on itself, and then in the later seasons they expanded on the Net and even the Web. There is a lot of material here which could be adapted into a modern day reboot that could potentially be just as fun and imaginative as before, or perhaps even moreso. Instead we got some sort of tale of high school kids stumbling on advanced tech which of course involves the fate of the world and the participation of secret government agents. So basically, a fairly bog-standard teenage adventure story that has gotten the ReBoot logo literally stamped on it.

Sigh, you know you're getting old when you don't even recognize the shows you grew up with.
 
:barf: It looks even worse than I thought it would. And what was that voice they gave Megabyte?! Obviously no one can replace Tony Jay, but they could at least find someone closer. This one sounds like Garrus from Mass Effect.
 
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I'm not averse to approaching a concept from a new angle, but it seems to be losing the essence of Reboot to make the protagonists human. What was distinctive about the show was that it was entirely from the perspective of AIs within cyberspace, with humans known only indirectly as a mysterious, capricious godlike force from outside.
 
The only real direct involvement of the User we ever got in ReBoot was when Mainframe crashed in the third season finale and we then see a computer screen for well, rebooting the system.
 
Yep, big fan of the first three seasons here (still haven't seen the fourth). (Here's an old thread regarding the show's DVD release.) And I agree, this... er, ReBoot reboot show, which, so far as I can tell, has none of the original team behind it, looks like ass:

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A few classic references aside, it looks and feels far more like a Tron: Legacy-based show than ReBoot.

Eeh...not that bad, will check it out at the end of the month.

I'm not too sure a continuation of the original show would have worked, Gaith; it's been a while, and there may not have been any way to continue the story, or perhaps the original creative team lost interest. Also, Rainmaker may have felt that it was too much like Tron Legacy for their tastes.

This show sounds (and looks) like The Sprawl Trilogy, only the main characters are working to stop hackers instead of be them, kind of like an unofficial Turing Agency.
 
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Christ .... They turned Reboot into The Power Rangers .... Pass (sadly)

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They've been talking about bringing back Reboot for the longest, longest time and then when finally they manage to come back, they got suckered into making it look terrible. The original show was magical with an outstanding second half to the series that expanded the lore so much. This is tragic.
 
To be honest, I thought the first season of the original was awful. Not only was the animation primitive (which is forgivable, since they were inventing the techniques as they went), but the writing was mediocre, basically a dumb comedy that was written as if the basics of the world and the characters had already been established in some earlier work, and with a clumsily written title narration that had absolutely nothing to do with the actual stories. ("I intend to find out?" No, you don't, Bob! You never once made the slightest attempt to find that out!) It wasn't until season 2 that it started to get good, especially once they started doing the 4-part story arcs that continued for the rest of the series. If I were introducing the show to someone new, I'd recommend just starting with season 2. You wouldn't miss anything except a couple of minor in-jokes.
 
Well, I was like 9 when Reboot came out. It was pretty fun on ABC. But when it moved to Cartoon Network a few years later with the new episodes, oh man was that stuff good.
 
Well, I was like 9 when Reboot came out. It was pretty fun on ABC. But when it moved to Cartoon Network a few years later with the new episodes, oh man was that stuff good.
The first two seasons had to meet US Broadcasts Standards and Practices (BS&P, a common injoke in those seasons) which the writers and producers complained often hampered what they could do. Indeed, the Talent Night episode in which Dot's assistant finds something immoral about everyone who auditions for Enzo's birthday party is based on this.

The third season had no American oversight, Cartoon Network didn't pick the show up until after the third season aired in Canada. For the third season, the producers only had to follow Canadian rules for children's programming, which are a lot more lax than American ones. YTV's attitude was "as long as we get ratings we don't care what you do." As a result, we got what was easily the best season of the show, and even today I consider it among my favourite seasons of any TV show period.

The fourth season/TV movies are okay, with flashbacks expanding on the show's background being a highlight. But much of it felt too much like a retrospective of the series, showing off advances in CG animation by bringing back so much stuff and showing it off in fancy modern CG. Still fun to watch, but not really all that great.
 
The first half of season 4, the Daemon Rising arc, is superb, and the animation is incredibly improved from the show's beginnings. The second half, My Two Bobs, is more disappointing, because it's more about resetting things to the old status quo and ended with a cliffhanger that was meant to be resolved in the unmade third arc.
 
The first two seasons had to meet US Broadcasts Standards and Practices (BS&P, a common in-joke in those seasons) which the writers and producers complained often hampered what they could do. Indeed, the Talent Night episode in which Dot's assistant finds something immoral about everyone who auditions for Enzo's birthday party is based on this.

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I'm not averse to approaching a concept from a new angle, but it seems to be losing the essence of Reboot to make the protagonists human. What was distinctive about the show was that it was entirely from the perspective of AIs within cyberspace, with humans known only indirectly as a mysterious, capricious godlike force from outside.

Agreed. I honestly don't think this trailer looks half bad as some other show, but it doesn't really feel like a proper continuation of ReBoot.
 
Agreed. I honestly don't think this trailer looks half bad as some other show, but it doesn't really feel like a proper continuation of ReBoot.

To be fair, though, I suppose there's something to be said for approaching a concept from the opposite direction, complementing the original by filling in the other side of the equation. We've seen how the programs perceive the User; how do the users perceive the programs? In theory, that kind of inversion could have merit and offer something fresh.

The problem is, this trailer doesn't actually look all that fresh. As others have remarked, it's reminiscent of shows we've seen before, like Power Rangers (or maybe VR Troopers) and Code Lyoko.
 
I agree as well. A version that has more perspective from the human world can be interesting, if done differently.
 
Gotta admit from that trailer it looks like they knew they couldn't get a 'TRON' license from Disney, so they went for and got 'Reboot' to try and jump start some kind on 'buzz' - but yeah, apart from the name it appears to have nothing in common with that series EXCEPT for the fact it takes place in some type of computer generated environment.
 
but yeah, apart from the name it appears to have nothing in common with that series EXCEPT for the fact it takes place in some type of computer generated environment.

Well, it does look like it's bringing back Megabyte, and perhaps other characters and worldbuilding elements. It's using the concept of Guardians that was central to the original series, but expanding it to apply to humans, presumably thanks to the Guardian Code of the title.
 
Just what were Guardians supposed to be anyway? Well, some sort of quasi-military peacekeeping force, obviously, but what was their purpose or mandate? The early seasons make it seem as though only Guardians were capable of defeating the User in Games, but as we later found out when Bob left, Dot could handle a Game just fine without Bob, and with one exception, Enzo and Andraia did just fine on their own as well. The credits monologue says Guardians "mend and defend" though Mainframe had its own Binome defense force that seems to serve a combination of military and police department

Bob appears to be some sort of idealized version of the Guardians, the others are apparently eager to resort to force as the first option, including even attempting to destroy Mainframe rather than attempt other options, while he typically wins the day with less drastic options. Although in the case of the unresolved cliffhanger the series ended on, maybe he should gone with the Guardians' approach that time.
 
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