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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Ripley was not written the way she was because the writers "wrote her like a man"; she was written the way she was because of the role she was intended to fill, which was that of "military hard-ass".

IIRC, the characters in Alien weren't written gender specific. Ripley could have easily been a man. I also seem to remember Janeway wasn't locked into being a woman until late in the process. The part could've went to either gender.
 
Again, what about David? If we're genderswapping, Kirk's pregnant with David during the five-year mission. And that makes a big difference.
It's 23rd century. Maybe Carol was one pregnant even if Kirk was a woman. They'll figure it out.

And this was never about one specific character, merely about Mirror Mirror's claim that changing the look of everything doesn't 'change events' whilst changing a gender of a character would. I am merely challenging that assertion. If you can imagine any one character, changing of whose gender would not change the events, than that assertion is false.
 
It's 23rd century. Maybe Carol was one pregnant even if Kirk was a woman. They'll figure it out.

And this was never about one specific character, merely about Mirror Mirror's claim that changing the look of everything doesn't 'change events' whilst changing a gender of a character would. I am merely challenging that assertion. If you can imagine any one character, changing of whose gender would not change the events, than that assertion is false.
Surely though the choices involved (who carries the baby etc) alter the story?

I get what you're saying (casting genderblind is admirable), but I think genderswapping is enough of an alteration to render the continuity of any genderswapped episodes as separate from the regular ones.
 
That DSC is a reboot and entirely separate from the rest of Trek. And they're okay with that.

I tend to think most people would be okay with it as a reboot or different timeline (spun off of the events of First Contact, as a sequel to Enterprise). CBS just didn't have any faith in the show being able to sell subscriptions without pandering.

Then again, based on the quality of the show we got, I would probably be pandering too if my job depended on it.
 
Surely though the choices involved (who carries the baby etc) alter the story?

I get what you're saying (casting genderblind is admirable), but I think genderswapping is enough of an alteration to render the continuity of any genderswapped episodes as separate from the regular ones.

How about a temporary genderswap?
 
After seeing how They've changed the TOS Enterprise for this show, I've decided for the sake of my own 'head-canon' (and in order to get this show to fit in the grand scheme of things in my mind) all the stuff depicted in the "ENTERPRISE" series has somehow "slightly altered" the Original Series Technology and created a new Trek Universe leading to "Discovery".
(I like the look mostly, Klingon stuff being somewhat of an exception)

For me, the event's in "Broken Bow" are going to be the starting point of this change and even though things play out "almost" exactly as they were shown in TOS, somehow because of the Temporal Cold War, Federation Technology was sped up and this is why "Discovery" is visually different.

Unfortunately TOS has become the "outlier" and even though that's pretty sad, it's the only way I can reasonably explain all the visual changes "in universe" with this series.
I have enjoyed this show so far, but it's very obvious to me that it is never going to 'exactly' lead to the original series I watched as a kid back in the 60's.
(no matter what the Producers say)
And I guess, that's OK since I have no control over it anyway.
<shrug>
Given the above - we can trace the 'alteration' being due to the events in the film "Star Trek: First Contact" so as per usual, it's ALL TNG's fault! ;)
 
Apparently they never considered 1710... :lol:
on small 1960 era TV (which were LESS clear than VHS was in modern day - they were honestly concerned even 1710 was close enough to 1701 to confuse viewers on low rez TVs.

And no one was lazy - there was no 'accepted ship numbering scheme' in the series bible and ALL THROUGH ITS NETWORK RUN - Star Trek was never anywhere near the top of the charts, so no one figured there would be fans of this show analyzing every frame of video and film 50+ years later.
 
on small 1960 era TV (which were LESS clear than VHS was in modern day - they were honestly concerned even 1710 was close enough to 1701 to confuse viewers on low rez TVs.

They didn't even have to bother with numbers. They could have simply put some hull damage where the number is supposed to be.
 
They didn't even have to bother with numbers. They could have simply put some hull damage where the number is supposed to be.
You do realize the Hull Damage shown on the Saucer was due to a BIC lighter, right? (No, no kidding). My point? They were doing things FAST. The easiest/quickest way to get the AMT model ready WAS to use the decals as they did - all to avoid possible audience confusion, and better differentiate the ships on the TV screen for that story. Doing extra painting on the model would have taken time they didn't have/want to waste on such an honestly trivial detail.
 
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