Did they CGI Sarek? No
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x15 - "Will You Take My Hand?"
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He’s another chap that could show up since Denobulans have 300 year lifespans.
Part of that is the terrible lighting and rendering on a lot of STD. All points of illumination on ships are smudges; most onscreen light sources "glow" at about the same intensity and radius. And are they even raytracing on most of this stuff, never mind any postprocessing?
Nothing in their space shots looks like it might physically exist.
Ok... I’ve been radio silent for this 2nd half of the season because I was so conflicted about how the show was going. Now that we’ve reached the end of this 1st outing I’ll just lay it all out there....
The pacing of this show is so erratic that it seriously almost made me give up on the whole thing. Its written at a binge watch pace but doled out in broadcast morcels. That is NOT a successful formula and CBS AA needs to course correct that shit for next season. Either slow down and develop and air weekly or keep the breakneck speed and dump all the episodes at once so that the giant glaring errors aren’t as noticeable becasue we’re on to the next epsode.
This is partly why a lot of the twists were forecasted so poorly that I didn’t see how they could possibly pay off and for the most part they didn’t.
Lorca just seems like a wasted opportunity. AshVoq seems half baked.
Stamets seems like 5 different characters at any given moment and poor Hugh Culber was the only nice guy on the whole ship and he had about 10 mins of screentime all together before getting his neck broke. A main characters husband DIES and its not even that big of a deal. That is a problem.
That said, I love Michael. I love Tilly. I think Michelle Yeoh is such a f’n pro that she did more with Georgiou than the writers had any right to have made of their slip shop work. And, not trying to be a jerk but, HOT DAMN Michelle Yeoh is as hot today as she was in Crouching Tiger and 007 like 20 years ago. That Orion brothel scene was pretty smoking.
The back half of this season being spent in the MU was simultaneously a conveluted cop out slog of a plot device and also way more fun than it possibly should have been. I think it was two episodes too long and I wanted the stakes of the back end of the Klingon war to be more fleshed out but whatever. Whats done is done.
This episode did exactly what it had to do. It basically apologized to fans for doing sketchy shit that violated Starfleet Ethical protocol (canon) and said, “moving forward we’ll be more like the Original Series! Promise!”
And if you don’t believe them, just look! Its the Enterprise. Looking like a million bucks. With Cpt. Pike and from the look Sarek shot Mike, I bet her friggin brother is on board.
There is nothing wrong with that ending. Hell, I was excited too! But, like so much of this first season, it felt hasty and unearned. But you know what? So did Tasha Yar’s death. So did Sisko becoming the Emissary. So did the Augment virus. Every ST series has its blemishes. I’m more than willing to give DIS a season of growing pains because it was visually stunning and trying to be different. Its not a matter of potential its a matter of excution and technique. I want the back of house to live up to the promise that the front end exhibits.
I’ll be back for season 2. But they need to Wow me.
The pacing of this show is so erratic that it seriously almost made me give up on the whole thing. Its written at a binge watch pace but doled out in broadcast morcels. That is NOT a successful formula and CBS AA needs to course correct that shit for next season. Either slow down and develop and air weekly or keep the breakneck speed and dump all the episodes at once so that the giant glaring errors aren’t as noticeable becasue we’re on to the next epsode.
This is partly why a lot of the twists were forecasted so poorly that I didn’t see how they could possibly pay off and for the most part they didn’t.
Lorca just seems like a wasted opportunity. AshVoq seems half baked.
Stamets seems like 5 different characters at any given moment and poor Hugh Culber was the only nice guy on the whole ship and he had about 10 mins of screentime all together before getting his neck broke. A main characters husband DIES and its not even that big of a deal. That is a problem.
That said, I love Michael. I love Tilly. I think Michelle Yeoh is such a f’n pro that she did more with Georgiou than the writers had any right to have made of their slip shop work. And, not trying to be a jerk but, HOT DAMN Michelle Yeoh is as hot today as she was in Crouching Tiger and 007 like 20 years ago. That Orion brothel scene was pretty smoking.
The back half of this season being spent in the MU was simultaneously a conveluted cop out slog of a plot device and also way more fun than it possibly should have been. I think it was two episodes too long and I wanted the stakes of the back end of the Klingon war to be more fleshed out but whatever. Whats done is done.
This episode did exactly what it had to do. It basically apologized to fans for doing sketchy shit that violated Starfleet Ethical protocol (canon) and said, “moving forward we’ll be more like the Original Series! Promise!”
And if you don’t believe them, just look! Its the Enterprise. Looking like a million bucks. With Cpt. Pike and from the look Sarek shot Mike, I bet her friggin brother is on board.
There is nothing wrong with that ending. Hell, I was excited too! But, like so much of this first season, it felt hasty and unearned. But you know what? So did Tasha Yar’s death. So did Sisko becoming the Emissary. So did the Augment virus. Every ST series has its blemishes. I’m more than willing to give DIS a season of growing pains because it was visually stunning and trying to be different. Its not a matter of potential its a matter of excution and technique. I want the back of house to live up to the promise that the front end exhibits.
I’ll be back for season 2. But they need to Wow me.
I think this is exactly what they were doing. Producers got close to saying as much. That said, think they should've given the episode more time.
Not bad. Digging the 1701 resto-mod for the most part.
"Priority message from Enterprise. They are transmitting......new uniform design specs. Immediate adoption required."
"Priority message from Enterprise. They are transmitting......new uniform design specs. Immediate adoption required."
Or they assume he is.
Did George Lucas write the dialogue for this one like oh man
I like the Enterprise, but yeah, this series is one of many on the air that thinks that dark, smoky, poorly-illuminated and moody qualifies as "cool," and after an entire season of the kind of lighting you'd see in a road house in the middle of nowhere just before last call I think it's time to turn up the lights so that the audience can see what's going on.
We get it. People are edgy these days so dark means hip and kewl. Time to dial it back a little.
Thinking some more about how the episode resolved the Klingon War, I think the other explanation is that Burhnam basically made a deal with L'Rell: She gave her the detonator to the bomb thus giving L'Rell the power to force all the Klingon Houses to accept her as the unified ruler of the Klingon Empire, in exchange for L'Rell making peace with the Federation. Now, why L'Rell didn't take the detonator, become the leader, and then still attack Earth, I guess she suddenly developed a sense of Klingon honor??
I'm fine with the lighting. Definitely don't want supermarket lighting again. They just need some color in the uniforms and some of those RGB led's here and there.
She's gotta unite the houses first. That'll take awhile, and then Praxis explodes and more problems, so they never get around to conquering, but it's still on their to-do list.
I'd be really surprised if they did.
She might be the Klingon Chancellor during TOS, or she gets assassinated or overthrown before then and another male Chancellor takes over the Empire.
So, the thin that bums me out is the resolution was too dang easy and dorsnt truly make any sense.
1.) Loreal convincing the klingons that there was a planet destroying bomb which she had the button to was too easy,
2.) convincing Cornwell in a five minute conversation, with genocide breathing down her neck, that this new plan is going to work, considering the risks seemed way to dang easy.
3.) I get Tyler's decision at the end and it makes sense, but Loreal was his torturer / rapist / lover, just too dang easy.
4.) Mike convincing George-yo without a real fight or conflict, too dang easy.
5.) They made this a bit of a deal, Emperor George-yo pretending to be captain George-yo but miraculously this never panned out to be any sort of a problem.
Just lame easy writing, a little saddening with such great acting.
1.) Loreal convincing the klingons that there was a planet destroying bomb which she had the button to was too easy,
2.) convincing Cornwell in a five minute conversation, with genocide breathing down her neck, that this new plan is going to work, considering the risks seemed way to dang easy.
3.) I get Tyler's decision at the end and it makes sense, but Loreal was his torturer / rapist / lover, just too dang easy.
4.) Mike convincing George-yo without a real fight or conflict, too dang easy.
5.) They made this a bit of a deal, Emperor George-yo pretending to be captain George-yo but miraculously this never panned out to be any sort of a problem.
Just lame easy writing, a little saddening with such great acting.
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