Yes it did, something Discovery will never achieve.
What is ''Real Star Trek''?
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The fact is that MOST of the Star Trek fanfic appears to be written for TOS and Voyager.
People don't write fanfic about a series if the series bores them and they can't find more aspects of it that they want to explore.
Maybe some day I'll count up the unique stories in all the TOS print 'zines I own. I guarantee the number will be in the many thousands, and the number of print 'zines I own is a drop in the bucket of how many were ever published. People are still writing new TOS stories, and no, I'm not referring to nuTrek (although that has its fan writers as well).
I don't have any Voyager print 'zines, although I know some exist. But those 9,700 stories on just that one site - plus new ones turning up all the time - are a pretty good indicator that the opinion that "Voyager killed Star Trek" is just whining from people who don't like Voyager.
What killed my interest in new TV Star Trek is Enterprise, and what killed my interest in new movie Star Trek began with those yawn-inducing TNG movies and was cemented with the eye-rollingly bad nuTrek movies. So of course every time some new thing is announced, I'm of the mindset that they are going to have to work VERY hard to impress me. It's going to have to hold my interest as a weekly TV show, and inspire me to want fan fiction and write filksongs.
AFAIK, most fans don't write fan fiction period, so I'm having trouble connecting the dots from which series has the most fan fiction to which series fans at large prefer.
Neither will Deep Space Nine, and judging by sales of the HD TNG release a few years ago, that never will either.
Your point?
It isn't just writing it, it's reading it. People don't read and write that stuff unless they really enjoy it.
What percentage of the fans even read fan fiction?
Less than a fifth of a percent one would imagine.
Really I don't give a fuck about DS9 or TNG. Point is what is the most rewatched and popular from Netflix stats is Voyager.
What's real Star Trek?
What I like.
What's crap Star Trek?
What YOU like.
As it was, and ever shall be.
What I like.
What's crap Star Trek?
What YOU like.
As it was, and ever shall be.
But apparently, they watch stuff they really don't enjoy...
This is where these kind of threads inevitably lead. People declaring their opinions as facts, trying to use subjective measurements to make objective declarations (e.g. the idea that Voyager is more popular because it has more fan fiction is ludicrous on its face). People actually getting mad because they don't like something other people do.
Round and round we go.
@Doom Shepherd is far closer to our sad reality in the post above.
But people often enjoy things without writing fanfics, I'd guessing "Black Mirror" probably doesn't generate much of this sort of interest despite being hugely popular, because it simply doesn't lend itself to the practise. That Voyager generates more than DS9 doesn't make it more popular, it simply suggests the nature of that fan base is more inclined to write those stories, that the characterisation, style and audience demographic of the show are more suited to fanfiction writing.
Kirk was even given a bad unfortunate image in TMP with his senior moment of almost destroying the ship. Hopping galaxies is not only a game for the young in my book. Sorry but in the future GR predicted 50 to be the new prime with the advance of medical science. It's just bad writing to me. Kirk screaming Khan!!! just made me groan as it was just so out of character.
And it's certainly not something that is unique to Star Trek fans.
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Well, he had to convince Khan that he truly was "marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet... buried alive."
Yes, but we perfected it.
In any other film, Kirk's presentation would have been the villainous admiral shown up by "Captain" Kirk.
Others adapted to it. Star Trek was born in it.
See, now I could not disagree with you more. I loved Voyager.
But I don’t think my opinion is any more “real” than anyone else’s.
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