Even by writers of Trek (especially on Voyager).
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x13 - "What's Past Is Prologue"
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Even by writers of Trek (especially on Voyager).
Yep, I lost track of the number of times I thought "that's not how it works!" when hearing such a line of dialogue in that show in particular. Damn near every species Voyager encountered in the DQ was warp-capable, yet they would conveniently whip out the old Prime Directive to prevent them from doing something. Can't remember exact examples, though - my specific memories of that show seemed to have been wiped via voluntary traumatic amnesia. 
It's just frustrating to wait 12 years for a new Trek show advertised as a serial and it's a jumbled clusterfuck with seemingly no clear direction (possibly brought upon by all the behind-the-scenes drama that delayed it for over a year).
For example, you introduce Lorca, perhaps one of the more interesting characters this franchise has had, and then... you suddenly make him evil and kill him off in the same episode.
All of that development over 13 episodes was shit on.
For example, you introduce Lorca, perhaps one of the more interesting characters this franchise has had, and then... you suddenly make him evil and kill him off in the same episode.
All of that development over 13 episodes was shit on.
It's quite clearly a serialized story. Granted, it might not have turned out the way you liked it to and some storytelling choices might be worse than others, but there's definitely an ongoing arc from point-A to point-B and episode to episode. Lorca's heel turn was not out of the blue and had numerous hints.It's just frustrating to wait 12 years for a new Trek show advertised as a serial and it's a jumbled clusterfuck with seemingly no clear direction (possibly brought upon by all the behind-the-scenes drama that delayed it for over a year).
For example, you introduce Lorca, perhaps one of the more interesting characters this franchise has had, and then... you suddenly make him evil and kill him off in the same episode.
All of that development over 13 episodes was shit on.
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Yeah would seem so, it also owns the door to have major names come in to play important characters, after all we have had Georgiou and Lorca who knows which characters we may get to see and be played by.
It's serialized insofar as each episode follows from the last. The question is more if it is really telling a cohesive story. People have already been joking after the two-part pilot which seemed to be a prologue, that episodes 3-9 seemed like yet another prologue before the "real story" got started. Now it might be the case that the entire season was effectively a prologue to whatever they do next. It's just an odd way to do a narrative arc.
From a character perspective (particularly for Burham) there is a more credible case that an "arc" is taking place. But what is it? Burnham gets her groove back? Happened already by Episode 9, which offered good narrative closure of open threads from the prologue. If anything Burnham's character regressed in the Mirror Universe.
I just think a lot of people are butt hurt because the guy they liked the most turned out to be a racist. Hints were there.
That was a great conclusion to the MU arc. I was a bit disappointed to lose Lorca, but I really enjoyed his story, and we got a hell of a fight between him and Georgiou, so I'm not to upset.
I see some people are complaining about Lorca going full on villain here, but I didn't think it was that much of a jump. He was playing nice as a way to get back home with the spore drive, and Burnham, and once home he stopped pretending.
Emperor Georgiou coming back with them to the PU was a huge shock, I did not expect that at all. It will be very interesting to see what they do with her now.
I was surprised they resolved the whole thing with the mycelial network dying so quick, I figured that was going to be the main focus up to the finale.
I see some people are complaining about Lorca going full on villain here, but I didn't think it was that much of a jump. He was playing nice as a way to get back home with the spore drive, and Burnham, and once home he stopped pretending.
Emperor Georgiou coming back with them to the PU was a huge shock, I did not expect that at all. It will be very interesting to see what they do with her now.
I was surprised they resolved the whole thing with the mycelial network dying so quick, I figured that was going to be the main focus up to the finale.
Georgiou's presence in the PU should offer some darkly amusing fish-out-of-water scenarios for as long as she's there. Regarding the Klingon War issue, she'll probably first recommend a metagenic weapon specifically designed to demolecularize any being with the Klingon genome resulting in an easy end to the war within the week, only to have everyone stare at her gobsmacked in horror, with Michael quietly saying, "we don't do that here".
and Saru thinking "first thing tomorrow I'm working out how to do that to MU shitheads"
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I have a question for all you lore buffs out there. If the Discovery has returned 9 months past when they left do we now have a baby Klingon running around the ship born to L'Rell and Tyler?
I have a question for all you lore buffs out there. If the Discovery has returned 9 months past when they left do we now have a baby Klingon running around the ship born to L'Rell and Tyler?
Poor lorca, I thought he was a great captain before this episode.
And is it me or is the intro a little bit similar to fringe?
And is it me or is the intro a little bit similar to fringe?
Welcome to the board!
To answer your question, no, because to the crew of Discovery (including L'Rel and Tyler) , only a few weeks (at most) have passed and nothing much has changed. The 9 month shift only applies to the Prime Universe in which they've only just returned, relatively speaking.
How stupid am I. Thanks.
Maybe Burnham and Tyler will have a baby soon. And Tyler and L'Rell. And just to surprise everyone, Tyler and Detmer.
To make it even more surprising, Tyler and Saru. I mean, we don't know much about his biology, so...
I'm pretty sure all of the mirror Kelpians we saw were played by men.
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