Given their level of writing so far, they probably aren't going to give it another moment of thought.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x13 - "What's Past Is Prologue"
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Nobody "wasted" isaacs for burnham. Thay doesn't make much sense to say anyway. There are the actors isaacs and green, characters lorca and michael.
Most of these stories were written or conceived before they were cast. It isn't like the cast isaacs as lorca, and think to themselves "gee this actor is so much better but we don't care cause we have a social narrative to push"
It'd be one thing to say they wasted LORCA in favor of burnham, but not isaacs. The character and the story werr written before they knew exactly who would do the acting.
And my own personal opinion, Burnham is a much more interesting character. I mean even if Lorca wasn't destined to die and continue on, like wilson fisk to daredevil, the interest in lorca's character could only survive attached to michael. at best You can't have Lorca without michael. His character on its own would.make zero sense without michael.
So even saying Lorca is wasted in favor of Michael makes no sense.
I thought there were some episodes that didn't seem to bear out her as a main character but I think its pretty clear the entire story focuses on Michael, especially now. So at best, the Lorca character is only really useful because of the Michael character.
It's a good suggestion for novel writers in the future when trying to explain this mess.
I'm trying to compare Lorca now to Micheal Eddington, who was probably the most extensive heel turn in Trek up to this date.
Eddington got far less screen time, worked better as a contrast to the main character, and had a much, much better conclusion to his arc.
JANEWAY: Tom, what's the first thing they teach you about manoeuvring at warp?
PARIS: Faster than light, no left or right. When possible, maintain a linear trajectory. Course corrections could fracture the hull.
JANEWAY: Exactly. We'd have to drop to impulse every time we made a course change but, what if we let Voyager do the driving?
PARIS: Ma'am?
Dialogue in this one really sucked. Lorca, probably the best character up until last episode, is squashed down into a one dimensional mustache twirling cartoon villain and to top it off the writers chose to politicize his evilness with make the empire great again. The episode was preachy beyond even my usual expectations. To make matters worse, MU Tilly didn't have my long awaited death scene. The show could have redeemed itself by having either of the Tilly's bite it in a way that would get her into the 23rd century Darwin awards. I officially care about none of the characters now, therefore I shall rate this episode a meh rating of 5 - and it gets that for special effects only.
I missed the first 15 minutes, gasp, but found the remainder hard to get into. Now the question is do I watch the first 15 minutes before I go to bed tonight or wait until tomorrow evening (I watch it on Space not the internet.)
Got to say that the way the Lorca story ended wasn't dealt with very well. Jason Isaacs is a good actor and I hope that we come across his PU counterpart and he stays in the show. As for MU Georgiou in the prime, I have to wonder what will happen.
Got to say that the way the Lorca story ended wasn't dealt with very well. Jason Isaacs is a good actor and I hope that we come across his PU counterpart and he stays in the show. As for MU Georgiou in the prime, I have to wonder what will happen.
As a total aside, I'm really shocked - even though he had nothing to offer the plot this week - that Shazad Latif didn't even make a brief cameo. I was always under the impression the way the acting contracts worked was if you were a main character they had to find some way to shoehorn you into the story in every week.
Good comparison.
Eddington has always been one of my favorite bits from DS9. One phrase I always like to use when people start into the Gene's Vision bullshit is, "Eddington was right." I've always found him to be an under-celebrated character. And a great example of a foil done right.
Isaacs will be back. Dramatically it makes sense to have PU Lorca show up at some point and interact with Burnham. They can do all sorts of things with that interaction.
MU Georgiou will no doubt play some part in the war now.
MU Georgiou will no doubt play some part in the war now.
I believe that is the only reference to a ship not turning during warp travel, though of course we have many visual scenes showing the ship turning and no mention of changing to impulse going back to many, many occurrences during TOS and onward.
Because TNG always had streaking stars when at warp. the wounded clearly shows the Phoenix turning at warp as she heads away from the Enterprise.
the After Trek show is one of the nice things about watching trek week by week again when it is a new show, rather then reruns. nice ~2hr break every sun night.
Not necessarily, there's been a few instances in other trek shows where main characters haven't appeared in certain episodes. It's rare though. In most modern tv series it's pretty common.
And even then there was some, campy moustache twirling. Yet done almost perfectly.
My problem with Lorca's end was I know he isn't that stupid. I mean the utter lack of foresight from that guy, the guy who outsmarted and out played so many smart players.
Its just silly writting.
I don’t think weve ever seen another show do warp circles before. It’s always been in a straight line or so.
Sorry but Trek has had many examples of a ship turning at warp and even faster at transwarp speeds. T his dates all the way back to TOS.
perhaps, but Jason didn't think so on After Trek.
Unless they clearly show on PU lorca died, i guess anything is possible.
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