Amanda's family run a Subspace railroad for alien rebels who want to escape the Empire. Even during the 19th century USA 'rebellious' white woman partnered with black males.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"
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Head canon is a legit thing.
You're quite right, and I have to say I hadn't considered that. If we take the idea that this is indeed Mirror Lorca, and he "replaced" the real Lorca after the destruction of the Buran, than I believe it's been about a year since he "crossed over."
Again, assuming these things are true (I'm not quite convinced yet) -- that means he's missed out on at least a year's worth of events and progress in the Mirror Universe, and in that turbulent reality, a lot can change in that span of time.
Why am I not convinced? Well, I haven't read all 50+ pages of this thread, but wouldn't a simple medical scan reveal his aberrant quantum signature? When Burnham makes note of it, it didn't seem to be something she was LOOKING for, just something that popped up on her normal sensor data.
I have to believe that if he were from the Mirror Universe that SOMEwhere along the line over the course of the year a medical scan, transport log, or tricorder reading would have made note of his quantum signature.
I didn't say it isn't legit. Just that I find it mildly indicative of mental problems.
Were you not the one who wasn't convinced Tyler was a Klingon?
Stop insulting people who disagree with you.
When the people in charge present us with something so visually, technologically and (perhaps most importantly) thematically different to what's come before and ask us to believe they exists concurrently in the same universe...
They're probably doing their own thing and calling it "prime" because their focus groups told them 10% of their viewers will quit their subscriptions if it isn't. And they want to keep each and every viewer they can.
They're probably doing their own thing and calling it "prime" because their focus groups told them 10% of their viewers will quit their subscriptions if it isn't. And they want to keep each and every viewer they can.
I'm never convinced until something is proven. If you go back and read my remarks I acknowledge that it was a long shot, and said it was a "near certainty" that he was Voq, but that there was a dark horse theory that it was misdirection, a theory I personally favored out of my own desires, but not one I particularly bought into.
Head "cannon" is not a disagreement.
Quite the contrary, from my perspective. It actually makes it worse. At the beginning, I saw Tilly as Wesley and, whilst that's still my primary go-to on reaction, I find that the self-awareness thing just makes it painful to watch. I keep on asking myself "How does this person function in the real-world?!" She'll never make captain--hell, anything above Lieutenant!--being that self-conscious! ;-)
Which doesn't mean she cannot grow and mature and what-not, but...by her age, most of her personality is set. The odds get progressively smaller that a vast personality shift will occur.
Plus, I cannot help but think her character is being written as a wank to insecure Millennials "See, you can succeed in life!" :::eyeroll:::
But, that having been said, others' mileage may vary. I find her the least interesting character of the show. Others don't. That's okay. IDIC, right? :-)
Which Buran?
Consistency in Star Trek writing? It would not be the first time a writer made a mistake by letting a character say something that is an in universe error Re The Eugenics war reference in DS9, STSFS Admiral dating the age of the Enterprise incorrectly, JJverse and their 'only 10,000 Vulcans left' crap.
Going to kill is different from the President is already dead. In this case the Defiant has already gone back in time, they have to let it happen again if they return home.
I continue to hate most everything about the Klingon storyline. Nothing about it plays well with what we saw on ENT or TOS, and it is supposed to be in between them. To be honest, the Klingon storyline (minus the FED bit) would have fit perfectly into the narrative about the Hur'q, and how they were invaded, subjugated, scattered, had to pull themselves together, etc. Doesn't work with our timeline, but that's where that story would fit for me in isolation.
As for the mirror universe bit? most of the rumors/guesses feel pretty likely, so will see where it goes. Agree that the concept falls apart when looking at it, so don't pick the scab. You can KINDA have a mirror universe episode as a one-off, but it's tough to revisit in different time periods. if the histories are that different, things will diverge more and more over time. It could be CLOSE in the ENT timeframe if the divergence was recent, but so many years later in TOS, shouldn't be anything near similar. Add another 80 years, DS9 would be completely unrecognizable.
But it's really just evil twin cosplay, so not going to look too closely at it...
As for the mirror universe bit? most of the rumors/guesses feel pretty likely, so will see where it goes. Agree that the concept falls apart when looking at it, so don't pick the scab. You can KINDA have a mirror universe episode as a one-off, but it's tough to revisit in different time periods. if the histories are that different, things will diverge more and more over time. It could be CLOSE in the ENT timeframe if the divergence was recent, but so many years later in TOS, shouldn't be anything near similar. Add another 80 years, DS9 would be completely unrecognizable.
But it's really just evil twin cosplay, so not going to look too closely at it...
Oh, are there two? I didn't realize. I just memory-alpha'd it. According to MA, Lorca commanded the USS Buran that was destroyed around the time of the Battle of the Binary Stars.
However we live in a world where the Eurocentric beauty standard sets the rules of physical beauty. Things are slowly changing.
I should have worded that better. Stop insulting people who have head-canon.
There was a Buran in the mirror universe as well.
Agreed, I never liked the idea of continually returning to the Mirror Universe, but if they had to, I'd have liked to see different actors playing the same characters, or entirely different characters, with someone asking "Who is Benjamin Sisko?"
But like you said, it's about evil twin cosplay. And that's why I don't think it's worth revisiting. On the other hand, if the stories are strong, I'm willing to look past the internal illlogic of it.
The ISS Buran was destroyed by the Empire after MU Lorca's attempted coup.
Not only that, but I find it strikingly odd that the only woman he wants to see is the skinny blonde white girl. He seems offended that the one woman played by an actress he finds hot is under prosthetics, and the women he doesn't think are hot are non-caucasian or not slender. It seems to me that he has a type-- which is totally fine-- but to complain that he can't ogle the one girl he likes is kind of obnoxious.
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