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Spoilers Dr. Hugh Culber Despite Yourself Spoilers!

He did rather walk into his own death. I seriously think the average IQ of this version of Trek protagonists must be in the single digits. Landry decides to have a rumble with Ripper, because that is what you do with a creature that is called...'Ripper'. Culber the plonker suspects the hideously massive medical evidence of subterfuge with Tyler... backdrop the Klingon war... makes meeting alone with this fake a good idea. What an idiot.
 
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Can we edit the name out of the thread title? It had been advertised somebody was going to die in this episode and this does nothing at hiding the fact who.
 
I despair. I mean the first mistake was Lorca's in assigning Head of Security to someone he had just met in prison, but Lorca does that kind of thing. Gives jobs of major responsibility to any one he chooses. Mind you Lorca isn't playing with a full deck of cards either. The stupidity comes from the top. Even so Culber had to consider what we all did in that why would that kind of surgery be done, in a time of war? Should he be alone with such a person who is Head of Security - knows how to kill by virtue of his job. Yikes why is Tyler still Head of Security? He fell apart with his PTSD just the previous episode to this one. Yet there he is still sent on missions, visiting his gal in the brig, snapping necks.
 
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I despair. I mean the first mistake was Lorca's in assigning Head of Security to someone he had just met in prison, but Lorca does that kind of thing. Gives jobs of major responsibility to any one he chooses. Mind you Lorca isn't playing with a full deck of cards either. The stupidity comes from the top. Even so Culbert had to consider what we all did in that why would that kind of surgery be done, in a time of war? Should he be alone with such a person who is Head of Security - knows how to kill by virtue of his job. Yikes why is Tyler still Head of Security? He fell apart with his PTSD just the previous episode to this one. Yet there he is still sent on missions, visiting his gal in the brig, snapping necks.
I do admit that it is suspect for Lorca to put Tyler as his head of security (although, as you say, he does things his own way most of the time), but I don't think he's aware of any of Tyler's recent actions, right? I think the only two that really know something is wrong that we know are Culber and Burnham (to a lesser extent).
 
He better not be dead for reals.

(He was killed on a 23rd century sick bay. Maybe another doctor walks in 20 seconds later and revives him.)
 
Unfortunately, there are a number of people (and forgive me, I haven't read a single post in this thread) saying this is a typical "bury your gays" trope to have killed Culber.

I honestly don't think that Aaron Harberts, who is openly gay, would allow for something he felt was a mis-treatment of a gay character or relationship on the show. While we all might be disappointed and emotional, I think it's wrong to be accusing the writers of wrongdoing here. Let's be patient and see what happens.
 
I honestly don't think that Aaron Harberts, who is openly gay, would allow for something he felt was a mis-treatment of a gay character or relationship on the show.

I dunno the idea of us all being equal means anyone can be a marginally ok writer or actor and fall into dramatic storytelling tropes. :)

That being said I don't think the idea is a mistreatment of gays. it isn't an uncommon storytelling device among any group of people.

On the ship there is one organic and natural relationship, the one that has the opportunity for more people to relate to, straight or gay, and that's stammets and culber. Between the cohabitation, the openness between one another and the portrayal of a common type of natural love, its the one I for one relate to the most. In some ways they remind me of my wife and I.

So, if I'm writing a show and decide, we need to tug on heart strings and someone has to die, it'd be one of them.
 
I dunno the idea of us all being equal means anyone can be a marginally ok writer or actor and fall into dramatic storytelling tropes. :)

That being said I don't think the idea is a mistreatment of gays. it isn't an uncommon storytelling device among any group of people.

On the ship there is one organic and natural relationship, the one that has the opportunity for more people to relate to, straight or gay, and that's stammets and culber. Between the cohabitation, the openness between one another and the portrayal of a common type of natural love, its the one I for one relate to the most. In some ways they remind me of my wife and I.

So, if I'm writing a show and decide, we need to tug on heart strings and someone has to die, it'd be one of them.

Oh THAT I most definitely agree with. I just didn't think it had anything to do with trying to quickly dispatch the "gay relationship" so that they could move on with all the straight stuff (or whatever haha)!

I think it's a storytelling device to have a loved one killed (and, honestly, an effective one). But, it wasn't because the character was gay and/or they wanted to eliminate that element of the series.

It also hurts that he was extremely intelligent and likable as a human being...so even if he wasn't in a relationship, it still would have been an emotional death.
 
Unfortunately, there are a number of people (and forgive me, I haven't read a single post in this thread) saying this is a typical "bury your gays" trope to have killed Culber.

I honestly don't think that Aaron Harberts, who is openly gay, would allow for something he felt was a mis-treatment of a gay character or relationship on the show. While we all might be disappointed and emotional, I think it's wrong to be accusing the writers of wrongdoing here. Let's be patient and see what happens.
That they've already fridged two POC women does not exactly elicit confidence...
 
Can we not be so annoyingly political that we start having a scoreboard tally of what kind of people are dying on the show?

God, you guys could take the fun out of just about anything...hahaha!
 
Can we not be so annoyingly political that we start having a scoreboard tally of what kind of people are dying on the show?
No. When they brag about the diversity, they're asking for it. They bragged having the first female captain & first officer duo, then they kill the captain (and demote the first officer.) Then they brag having an openly gay couple, only to kill one of them.

In some other show it would be unfortunate, but not a big deal. But it is a big deal here, at least to me.
 
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