Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Isn't ISS Discovery kind of like USS Executioner?

Even in the MU, the name 'Discovery' still fits. You have to discover new worlds before you conquer them.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

I wonder if we’ll get any scenes with the mirror Discovery in the prime’verss

That's how they win the war. They get back and the find the Mirror DSC singlehandedly defeated the Klingons. And that's why no one ever mentions DSC in the future, especially the Klingons.

 

[Cyrus]

A few episodes ago Stamets called Tilly "Captain". At the time it felt like it would be something that would be explained later, and it was.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

Isn't ISS Discovery kind of like USS Executioner?

Does Saru have no confidence in his threat ganglia? I find it odd that he so causally ignores it.


Big Giant Head!
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Well, I suppose it wouldn't have a big impact on the characters...but it's still my vote.

The only character we've met that could have a bigger impact as the emperor is the Tartigard (or however it's spelled).

 

[Noname Given]

Season 2 was always going to happen, even before S1 premiered.

I live where the show is filmed and talked to many production people on the series. Netflix paid for all of S1 apparently. S2 was guaranteed.

Anything beyond that is where the show needs the general audience to support it.

Given S1 had a $8 million per episode price tag, I doubt that Season 2 was 'automatic' (any more that Season 2 of TNG was 'automatic' - it wasn't they had a plan to tack TNG S1 to the TOS syndication package ii TNG bombed.)

The FACT is ST: D Season 1 did well enough (and brought in enough subscriptions to CBSAA and Netflix) that CBS decidied it should get a second season.
^^^
Yes, it's popular, among both existing Star Trek fans - and it's brought in new fans too. You don't seem to be able to handle or acknowledge that fact it seems.

 

[Kenobiwan85]

Captain Killy is awesome.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

A few episodes ago Stamets called Tilly "Captain". At the time it felt like it would be something that would be explained later, and it was.

Yep, And since Stamets was kind of a prick in the regular universe, his mirror self is kind and friendly. It must be hell for the nice guys of the mirror U.

 

[Noname Given]

Didn't Sisko successfully do that though?

Well, given the events of DS9 - "In the Pale Moonlight" - yeah, Sisko's not your standard 24th century Sarfleet officer.

 

[thribs]

I’m sure vandalising the registry of the ship breaks some Starfleet protocol.
Also, seems rather easy to mask the quantum signature of the ship. Also seems unnecessary since I don’t think scanning the quantum signature is part of a standard sensor sweep.

 

[Nightowl1701]

I wonder if we’ll get any scenes with the mirror Discovery in the prime’verss

Depending on what the ISS Discovery gets up to in the Prime Universe, 'Captain Killy' may end up better off not going back...

 

[Tuskin38]

I’m sure vandalising the registry of the ship breaks some Starfleet protocol.
Also, seems rather easy to mask the quantum signature of the ship. Also seems unnecessary since I don’t think scanning the quantum signature is part of a standard sensor sweep.

Depends if the imperial starfleet knew the discovery could jump.

Plus the USS Defiant bring there

 

[137th Gebirg]

What the f**k did they do to the Defiant? Is nothing sacred?.

Just now getting into this, so it's likely it was already addressed in the intervening pages, but remember the Defiant has been in the MU for a while, since Archer's time. Since it was commandeered by Empress Sato, sixty or eighty some years ago, it's entirely possible and expected that she would have undergone several refits.

Would be cool if the Emperor is still Sato but I doubt that’s the case. It’s probably Georgio.
Also, they’re lucky their ships don’t have the yellow markings anymore.

They did seem to go out of their way to avoid naming the Emperor or addressing him as her as him or her. Always just "the Emperor".

Culber's death was the biggest surprise thus far of the entire series. Wilson Cruz did say earlier today on Instagram that after tonight's episode you'd never look at the relationship between Culber and Stamets the same way again.

I was genuinely shocked by that. Maybe they'll find Mirror Culber and reboot the relationship with a different dynamic.

 

[Vger23]

"I will cut out your tongue and use it to clean my boots"

Gotta be in the top 3 for best Trek lines ever written.

 

[Nightowl1701]

"I'd cut out your tongue and use it to lick my boots"

Gotta be in the top 3 for best Trek lines ever written.

FTFY.

 

[indranee]

I loved how Tilly said her mother would approve of her mirror universe appearance. I hope her mother makes an appearance eventually.

Too bad Majel has left us.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Remember though - if that's the current version of the Defiant in the Mirror Universe; they've had 110 years to learn and modify its systems, so I wouldn't expect it to look like a stock Constitution Class of our Universe. And even if that is what the final version of the U.S.S. Defiant was ultimately modified to by Terran Empire engineers over the years post ENT - "In A Mirror Darkly".

That has to be the explanation. I mean, how else can you explain the fact that the image has those bizarre mini nacelles yet larvae still overall retains the retro look? In fact the nacelle struts almost remind me a bit of Doug Drexler’s NX-01 refit.

Having said that, if this is indeed the new canon Connie, I’m glad they haven’t messed around with th design TOO much, unlike the Klingons.

 

[thribs]

Just now getting into this, so it's likely it was already addressed in the intervening pages, but remember the Defiant has been in the MU for a while, since Archer's time. Since it was commandeered by Empress Sato, sixty or eighty some years ago, it's entirely possible and expected that she would have undergone several refits.

That is possible but the ship is already very advanced with respect to them. Also, remember that the Defiant here is a Kirk era refit version and so it’s more advanced than the Discovery as well.
All I see them doing to it is cosmetic changes. Some yellow paint on the hill etc.

 

[thribs]

That has to be the explanation. I mean, how else can you explain the fact that the image has those bizarre mini nacelles yet larvae still overall retains the retro look? In fact the nacelle struts almost remind me a bit of Doug Drexler’s NX-01 refit.

Having said that, if this is indeed the new canon Connie, I’m glad they haven’t messed around with th design TOO much, unlike the Klingons.

It looked like a squished version of it. Plus the nacelles look like they retract, Voyager style.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Given S1 had a $8 million per episode price tag, I doubt that Season 2 was 'automatic (any more that Season 2 of TNG was 'automatic' - it wasn't they had a plan to tack TNG S1 to the TOS syndication package in TNG bombed.)

The FACT is ST: D Season 1 did well enough (and brought in enough subscriptions to CBSAA and Netflix) that CBS decidied it should get a second season.
^^^
Yes, it's popular, among both existing Star Trek fans - and it's brought in new fans too. You don't seem to be able to handle or acknowledge that fact it seems.

I was literally with some of the production staff of the series on the night of the premiere (while the final eps of the season were about to be filmed), and they told me S2 was already greenlit.

S1 was paid for entirely (including the 8 mil per ep price tag) by Netflix, and CBS could afford to go ahead with the next season.

We'll see if CBS is actually good with the numbers or not depending on whether S2 gets the same budget treatment as S1. I'm skeptical it will, given the divisive nature of this show, and the current Netflix situation.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Captain Killy is awesome.

Haha. So cringe. I prefer my Trek parody on The Orville.