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The Flash has turned into a kids show...

I'm not so sure about the 'Hulk clap'. If you check out 1977's 'Superman Vs. Muhammad Ali' Superman employs that exact same move and I'm pretty sure he was using it before then.

Sure, but the move is more associated with the Hulk, and given how many other overt Marvel nods there were, it's not unreasonable to suspect that this was intended as another one.

And of course there was the whole 'Spider-Man' talk between Jax & Stein in Jitters in episode one :).

Yes, I did mention that exchange, right after I mentioned the Hulk clap.
 
Compared with Arrow, the Flash series has always been a kids' show. :shrug:

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Superficially. Everyone keeps acting as if the past seasons of "The Flash" were light and humorous. There have been a great deal of angst on the show . . . except for this season. For Season Four, the angst level has been somewhat light.
 
I greatly prefer this season over the mess that was Season 3. The plot feels like it's moving at a nice pace, compared to last year where the more they stalled showing who Savitar was the more angry I would get.

Right now it's a better show than Arrow, and I couldn't say that last season.
 
I greatly prefer this season over the mess that was Season 3.


I don't. I don't regard Season 3 as a mess. However, I'm not that fond of the "The Flash Comedy Hour" of Season 4.
 
Superheroes were made for children so it makes sense they should be kid friendly in other forms of media. They aren’t deep, high brow contemplative pieces of art. That’s why the CW shows and Marvel Studios have been widely accepted by audiences and the DC films haven’t. Some people remember that and others try to ignore it.

The whole show is about running fast and believing in yourself. I love it, it’s for kids. Get over it. A show being for kids doesn’t make it terrible.
 
Superheroes were made for children so it makes sense they should be kid friendly in other forms of media.

That's a narrow way of looking at it. Where a thing begins is not the limit of what it can become. Superheroes as a genre have diversified to encompass all age groups and genres by now.


They aren’t deep, high brow contemplative pieces of art.

Some of them are -- Watchmen, for example. Genre does not limit content or quality; it's merely a subject matter. A highbrow piece of art and a mindless piece of trash can be written on exactly the same subject.
 
They aren’t deep, high brow contemplative pieces of art. That’s why the CW shows and Marvel Studios have been widely accepted by audiences and the DC films haven’t. Some people remember that and others try to ignore it.


So . . . filmmakers and television producers are supposed to limit the style of their stories to fit them into this box . . . this "light and kid friendly" label? Always? Comic book movies and television shows are not allowed to have the occasional angsty or mature story line? Like "Captain America: The Winter Soldier"? Or "Logan"? Is this what storytelling has become? Limiting itself to fit some one formula?
 
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