And have fans going on and on about her being a cold hearted killer who murders helpless prisoners?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x09 - "Into the Forest I Go"
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Yeah I don't get it. Burnham behaves like a starfleet officer and STILL gets criticised for it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No WAI!!! You mean people who don't like (but continuously watch) Star Trek Discovery would actually complain no matter what the show does...??? You mean to tell me they would be inconsistent and generate complaints regardless of what the quality, direction, and content is of the show???
I'm shocked, I say!! SHOCKED!!
Sorry that wasn't clear enough, I meant that he saw himself and L'Rell having sex before he became Tyler, when he was still Voq and they were lovers. It could also explain why she took and "interest" in him, because he her mind she was just getting back together with her lover.
Star fleet officers aren't in the habit of shooting to kill.
By your logic, anytime the ship of the dead was to show up it meant its destruction.
So, serious question then...honestly not trying to antagonize...
Are you unsubscribing now at this inflection point and will you not be returning to watch the second half? Because if this was still garbage to you...I have a feeling you aren't going to be onboard with anything that comes later.
I know, right? By the way I like your sig.
Yes, I'm through. There's been no substantive surprises and too many plot holes for me to bother watching further. I know they're trying to do a lot with a limited number of episodes. But I expect more from a show sporting the Star Trek name.
There was never a question that the good guys would go after it. The victory was, despite being ridiculously convoluted, too easily won.
Burnham has done it before.
She's trying to be a better person.
For myself, I like learning about this Star Trek universe. Yet, I have not developed an understanding of these characters. After watching the episode twice, there is a scene which I do not comprehend on an emotional level. Burnham and Tyler returned to the Discovery bridge. There is emotional communication between Burnham and members of the crew. I can not read what is happening here. It is vague, confusing to me. For me, this scene is a major blockage in the momentum of the episode.
I have recently seen "Stranger Things". For myself, this is how a serialized show should be done. I developed an affection for the characters and I was behind in them in their journey. I do not have the same feelings for the characters in Discovery. I never found myself, as I did with the latest episode, wondering what the hell was being sent in the emotional connections between characters. And, when what some consider the worst episode of "Stranger Things" was on the tv - the seventh episode of season 2 - I did not find myself turning away in boredom or finding it cringey. There was two episodes of "Discovery" where I did this - the episode with Mudd and the Pahvo episode.
I am more excited for a third season of "Stranger Things" then I am for the rest of the first season of Discovery and for the eventual second season, whenever that comes out. I will continue watching the latter show as I am a devoted Star Trek fan. I like learning about this universe. However, my enthusiasm for the series has been dampened considerably.
I have recently seen "Stranger Things". For myself, this is how a serialized show should be done. I developed an affection for the characters and I was behind in them in their journey. I do not have the same feelings for the characters in Discovery. I never found myself, as I did with the latest episode, wondering what the hell was being sent in the emotional connections between characters. And, when what some consider the worst episode of "Stranger Things" was on the tv - the seventh episode of season 2 - I did not find myself turning away in boredom or finding it cringey. There was two episodes of "Discovery" where I did this - the episode with Mudd and the Pahvo episode.
I am more excited for a third season of "Stranger Things" then I am for the rest of the first season of Discovery and for the eventual second season, whenever that comes out. I will continue watching the latter show as I am a devoted Star Trek fan. I like learning about this universe. However, my enthusiasm for the series has been dampened considerably.
No one will question you for enjoying Stranger Things more than Discovery. It's one of the best streaming shows out there.
As a direct, emotional, response to her beloved captain being killed.
Still did it and she was fully Starfleet then.
Great episode -- a hard 9.
Loved Burnham manipulating Kol into a fight in order to buy time for Discovery to obtain the telemetry from the relays. As to the notion that Burnham should not have survived the fight, in addition to others pointing out that super strength was never a Klingon trait, SM-G pointed out on After Trek that Burnham's main strategy in the fight was simply dodging. She didn't come close to actually defeating him.
I yelled out loud when she grabbed Georgiou's badge from Kol. I know, it was obvious when Kol showed it, that she would not leave Kol's ship without it. But that didn't take away from the greatness of the moment.
Loving Lorca. Classic example of a character who is interesting but not in a touchy feely way. His refusal to leave Pahvos defenseless even if it meant disobeying orders was (as others have also pointed out), so Kirk-like.
As to the 'Tyler is Voq' theory, I have no idea. In season 3 of Agents of Shield, I was so positive that Andrew wasn't also "Lash", that I swore I'd eat my keyboard if it turned out that he was. I wIas dead wrong, so I'll wait and see about Tyler/Voq.
Gonna be hard to wait all these weeks for the next episode.
Oh, and really sorry to hear of the apparent loss of some of our favorite fan/hate watchers.
Loved Burnham manipulating Kol into a fight in order to buy time for Discovery to obtain the telemetry from the relays. As to the notion that Burnham should not have survived the fight, in addition to others pointing out that super strength was never a Klingon trait, SM-G pointed out on After Trek that Burnham's main strategy in the fight was simply dodging. She didn't come close to actually defeating him.
I yelled out loud when she grabbed Georgiou's badge from Kol. I know, it was obvious when Kol showed it, that she would not leave Kol's ship without it. But that didn't take away from the greatness of the moment.
Loving Lorca. Classic example of a character who is interesting but not in a touchy feely way. His refusal to leave Pahvos defenseless even if it meant disobeying orders was (as others have also pointed out), so Kirk-like.
As to the 'Tyler is Voq' theory, I have no idea. In season 3 of Agents of Shield, I was so positive that Andrew wasn't also "Lash", that I swore I'd eat my keyboard if it turned out that he was. I wIas dead wrong, so I'll wait and see about Tyler/Voq.
Gonna be hard to wait all these weeks for the next episode.
Oh, and really sorry to hear of the apparent loss of some of our favorite fan/hate watchers.
Yes, but its still not SOP for Starfleet.
FTFY.
On After Trek one of the trivia items was that the writers of the episode did want to make the number of jumps "525,600", but didn't because the number was considered crazy. Also, La Boheme was used as a homage to Rent and Wilson and Anthony. Also, the number they did go with, 133, was an homage to the pilot episode of nuBSG, "33".
It has already been pointed out that Lorca did not ask Stammets to do another jump and that it was solely Stammet's idea to do one last jump. Also, why would Starfleet need to trick Lorca into coming in? Why would the Vulcan admiral not simply have ordered Lorca to come in to answer charges? Lorca may, or may not have diverted the ship, but if he did, I doubt seriously if the reason will turn out to be that Lorca was fleeing Starfleet.
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