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It's been ages since I've seen any SG-1!
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x09 - "Into the Forest I Go"
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It's been ages since I've seen any SG-1!
This was a great finale.
I was surprised to see Cornwell alive, they did a big post death interview with her on StarTrek.com so I was assuming that meant she was dead.
The stuff with Tyler added some interesting new wrinkles to the Tyler is Voq theory. My thinking right now is that he is actually a sleeper and has no idea he is Voq, and that the torture and sex flashbacks were actually Voq being turned into Tyler, and the sex was entirely consensual romantic sex between them.
The destruction of the Ship of The Dead and the death of Kol were big surprises. The big fight between Micheal and Kol was pretty cool.
I'm wondering if it's going to turn out that they jumped into the Mirror Universe. Could anyone see if there were any symbols on the wreckage? I saw some red, but that was all I could make out.
The whole set up with the spore's network connecting to other universes makes me wonder if perhaps the post Klingon War arc will be Discovery jumping around through all sorts of different alternate universes.
I was surprised to see Cornwell alive, they did a big post death interview with her on StarTrek.com so I was assuming that meant she was dead.
The stuff with Tyler added some interesting new wrinkles to the Tyler is Voq theory. My thinking right now is that he is actually a sleeper and has no idea he is Voq, and that the torture and sex flashbacks were actually Voq being turned into Tyler, and the sex was entirely consensual romantic sex between them.
The destruction of the Ship of The Dead and the death of Kol were big surprises. The big fight between Micheal and Kol was pretty cool.
I'm wondering if it's going to turn out that they jumped into the Mirror Universe. Could anyone see if there were any symbols on the wreckage? I saw some red, but that was all I could make out.
The whole set up with the spore's network connecting to other universes makes me wonder if perhaps the post Klingon War arc will be Discovery jumping around through all sorts of different alternate universes.
I never noticed if he was usually the one inputting the destination when they were engaging the spore drive. I always assumed that navigation and helm would have done it, not the captain.
Kor
But that's nonsensical. He can't just run away from Starfleet with a crew of 200 forever. The war is not over (they made a point of mentioning this). His primary driver is winning the war. He's smarter than that. Jumping Discovery away wouldn't solve his issue. He's not obsessed with literally just remaining in command of the ship. If the ship is on the run from Starfleet, that defeats his true, ultimate purpose of redeeming himself by being instrumental with winning the war.
I don't agree with this idea that he's so broken that he'll do anything to avoid judgement...I just don't. If you break it down...it makes no sense.
I think his meeting with Cornwell several episodes ago really woke him up to his own issues like a punch in the face. He's been working hard to turn it around at this point. Yes, he is concerned with losing his command...but stealing the ship and holding off 200 trained loyal officers currently under his command while he mutinies against the Admiralty just doesn't make sense and isn't within his overall goals.
I think there's a lot of people trying to make something of an issue that isn't there. Our preconceptions are getting in our way.
I dunno...maybe I'm wrong. But I really don't see it at this juncture.
Though I'm one to love conversations revolving around specific definitions,
we aren't in a court, and this is a future society, not ours. I think most of us know that the definition of these things are changing with the times, and though the laws may be backwards, most people know better and most of us know what this means.
if Ash and L'Rell were to go back in time and he were to press charges, I get it
but it's still a fictional future. I for one would call that rape.
He sure as hell can try
You're making a rational point, which makes a lot of sense.
I don't think Lorca is thinking rationally.
Yeah. If this was his "masterful manipulation" then the writers are idiots. Lorca presumably doesn't read minds, and he had no way of knowing Stamets was going to suggest "one last jump." If they wanted to get across that this was all Lorca's nefarious plan they should have had the idea originate with Lorca to begin with.
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Lorca also needed time to get the details of how to evade the cloak to Starfleet and if I remember correctly, that did not happen. In fairness Klingon command and control is probably messed up now. The Torchbearer Cult is apparently still out there and at odds with presumably whoever is now effectively in charge, if anyone, of the Klingon empire.
Not disagreeing. Just pointing out why some people would not default to the term rape (IIRC cultcross works in some law enforcement capacity).
He sure as hell can try
You're making a rational point, which makes a lot of sense.
I don't think Lorca is thinking rationally.
I know...I know...
It's like I just said to Kor. I must admit that the flip side of this is I could be letting my love the character taint my perceptions.
I guess this is one of the fun aspects of the show...that we are in position to debate this kind of stuff!
We don't entirely know how L'Rell's Klingon Naughty Bits work. For all I know Paris was all about B'lanna's ovipostor.
At least we're beyond arguing with so many over whether the show is good or not,
debating all this nerd stuff is the fun part. Makes me feel 20 years younger,
To which I completely understand,
you won't find many people more nitpicky about specificity of words than I, I curb my tendency on this site a lot, I mean a LOOOOT, but I can appreciate it being brought up.
I work in transactional fraud at a bank, I'm sure if I was a LEO I'd have a different angle on it as well.
Too bad. The Klingon war is, for all intents and purposes, done. Kol is dead. The sarcophagus ship is destroyed. L'Rell is a captive and Voq is probably Tyler. There are literally no named Klingon characters remaining.
The season is supposed to end with the resolution of the Klingon war. I see this happening one of two ways.
1. The second-half of the season is mostly being "lost in space" with basically a return to Prime (or introduction to Prime, if we didn't start there) and settlement of the war as an afterthought in the last episode.
2. They get back a bit earlier, and the plan involving L'Rell and Voq is eventually fully hatched. In this case I presume we're headed to a negotiated settlement. T'Kumva's faction didn't seem to want war against the Federation as an ends, but as a means to unite the Klingon houses anyway, so it wouldn't make sense to continue to press the offensive if a unified Klingon government could be formed. Not to mention canon basically requires something like an armistace to be in place for TOS to unfold properly.
Absolutely!!!
The special effects are so fast, it's like blast processing.
PTSD with a shot of Schizo?
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