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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x06 - "Lethe"
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The thing I never understood about all those immense planets and moons so near Vulcan is that the sheering forces from the multiple gravitational fields should pull all of those worlds apart. Life should have never evolved there with all that high gravity interaction.
Life should also never have evolved in a way which allows humans and Vulcans to breed. Sometimes you've just got to accept the Rule of Cool.
Or if you want Star Trek to be harder-ish sci-fi, assume there's an answer but we don't have it as the audience.
The place isn't called "Vulcan" for nothing!
In contrast, Nero can drill a hole fairly deep into the planet, and it remains open, suggesting Vulcan is actually volcanically almost dead. A visitation by that big companion just brings about Halloween, and the zombie planet roars...
Random ruminations: I personally am quite fond of the idea that this monster in the sky (called by different names depending on the season, a cool concept from the novels) is to Vulcan what Remus is to Romulus - it speeds past every few years (or perhaps "months") so fast that its passing speed matches Vulcan's rotation and allows the monster to stay immobile in the sky as in "Yesteryear". The swiftness of the maneuver minimizes damage, too.
The setup may not be quite natural, either. Spock is ready to accept that alien meddling and outright seeding/transplantation could account for Vulcan prehistory. And Picard tells us that there are star systems out there with flat out impossible orbital mechanics. Perhaps powerful meddlers can arrange for such?
We still don't know much about the size and composition of this "T'Khut", mind you. It could be rock or gas in ST:TMP, styrofoam for all we care in TAS, and only gains some traces of potential solidity in DSC, with darker areas that have edges more like continents or seas than cloud formations. It's absolutely immense in all, though. But some of that may be dramatic license - our Moon is immense in many non-scifi movies, too, despite "actually" being a pinprick in the sky.
Timo Saloniemi
In contrast, Nero can drill a hole fairly deep into the planet, and it remains open, suggesting Vulcan is actually volcanically almost dead. A visitation by that big companion just brings about Halloween, and the zombie planet roars...
Random ruminations: I personally am quite fond of the idea that this monster in the sky (called by different names depending on the season, a cool concept from the novels) is to Vulcan what Remus is to Romulus - it speeds past every few years (or perhaps "months") so fast that its passing speed matches Vulcan's rotation and allows the monster to stay immobile in the sky as in "Yesteryear". The swiftness of the maneuver minimizes damage, too.
The setup may not be quite natural, either. Spock is ready to accept that alien meddling and outright seeding/transplantation could account for Vulcan prehistory. And Picard tells us that there are star systems out there with flat out impossible orbital mechanics. Perhaps powerful meddlers can arrange for such?
We still don't know much about the size and composition of this "T'Khut", mind you. It could be rock or gas in ST:TMP, styrofoam for all we care in TAS, and only gains some traces of potential solidity in DSC, with darker areas that have edges more like continents or seas than cloud formations. It's absolutely immense in all, though. But some of that may be dramatic license - our Moon is immense in many non-scifi movies, too, despite "actually" being a pinprick in the sky.
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If you take into account the events that occurred in TNG's "The Chase" we all (Humans, Vulcans/Romulan, Klingons, Cardassians and most all of the humanoid life in the galaxy) came from the same genetic ancestor and interspecies breeding may be quite a commonplace thing.
Planetary physics, however, cannot be rationalized in other directions like that.
I liked how the Cancri Elders looked - first new aliens we have seen who weren't Federation members.
I hear they gave the Klingons a cookbook.
For the commonality to survive four billion years, we have to assume phenomena far beyond our current understanding of science, though. Why not do the same with impossible orbital mechanics?
Given that powerful creatures (such as humans) in Trek can manipulate e.g. gravity at will, planetary physics might be optional.
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Those guys are actually pretty cool aliens. I'd have liked to learn more.
My headcanon is the Preservers were either far more recent modifiers in their alterations of other races and they started with humans as a baseline or they're just bliowing smoke.
I liked how the Cancri Elders looked - first new aliens we have seen who weren't Federation members.
They look really friggin' nice for some aliens-of-the-week!
A shame we never saw them talk or interact more with people. And that their planet was the same blue-ish rock CGI-background that has been used for the Dilithium-mine colony before. And that they turned out to be so utter incompetent at setting up secret war-time meetings with at least a base minimum of security, or at least a no-weapon policy!.
Man. I wish we would have spent more time developing these aliens, again: they look like a really friggin' good addition to the Trek lore.
I blame The Preservers
(Doh - replied before reading the rest of the thread to this point - still if they saved American Indians and stuck them on a Planet in the path of an asteroid they expect the inhabitants to deflect every few decades...)
The Preservers don't modify or do much of any thing with the peoples they save. It's right there in the name, they preserve them and their cultures. Their worlds are "nature reserves".My headcanon is the Preservers were either far more recent modifiers in their alterations of other races and they started with humans as a baseline or they're just bliowing smoke.
If I was going to point a finger at someone for populating Vulcan, it would be Sargon's people.
I feel the need to point out those are gray Salarians.
Homage?
Homage?
Wait, what? Who? I've heard of Silurians, but never Salarians, grey or otherwise.
Only if it means something to a dedicated audience. Otherwise it's just obscure fanwankery for the sake of fanwankery.
That explains it. I've never played those games.
T'Kuvma had a copy on his ship, fortunately.
Considering "Context is for Kings" showed us an image of what is obviously a Preserver obelisk on one of the moons of Andor, I have a feeling your headcanon is going to be test fired before this series ends.My headcanon is the Preservers were either far more recent modifiers in their alterations of other races and they started with humans as a baseline or they're just bliowing smoke.
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